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Started Jan-5 by Brandon (1690feet); 482 views.
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph) 

Jan-7

Doesn't it depend on the general?

What were his plans for any attacks on any US citizens?

Who will take his place?

I honestly don't know how to vote on this.

Let me know what the results are.

bml00

From: bml00 

Jan-7

Countries do not release transcripts of intercepts or intel they have , the General was core to the Iranians Armies expansion via its proxies

The Iranian Army cannot move from its borders , satellite technology allows interested parties to watch their movements (Israel has several over Iran the US many) movement of armies would be impossible , the use of Proxies circumvents this and allows the Iranians movement via others to engage the US or Israel via its proxies

The General was key to the proxies his replacement will never command the respect the General had , he was respected from being there in the fighting he knew he was a dead man walking he was fearless

BM

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph 

Jan-7

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

What were his plans for any attacks on any US citizens?

Unclear - I'm not sure that Shia militias created by the US in Iraq have been targeting any Americans, at least for a long time.

This report, is by the very brave (and Jewish) observer and author of Max Blumenthal and should be 100% true (but I've not yet seen it confirmed).

https://thegrayzone.com/2020/01/06/soleimani-peace-mission-assassinated-trump-lie-imminent-attacks/

Perhaps most shockingly - CNN is here accused of covering up what they know.

Iraqi PM reveals Soleimani was on peace mission when assassinated, exploding Trump’s lie of ‘imminent attacks’

The Trump administration claimed Iranian general Qasem Soleimani was planning “imminent attacks” on US interests when it assassinated him. That lie was just destroyed, but not before countless corporate media outlets transmitted it to the public.

January 6, 2020 ... Mike Pompeo insisted that Washington had made an “intelligence-based assessment” that Soleimani was “actively planning in the region” to attack American interests before he was killed. President Donald Trump justified his fateful decision to kill the Iranian general in even more explicit language ... “We took action last night to stop a war,” Trump claimed. “We did not take action to start a war.”

Trump’s dubious rationale for an indisputably criminal assassination has been repeated widely across corporate media networks, and often without any skepticism or debate.

At a January 3 State Department briefing, where reporters finally got the chance to demand evidence ... one US official erupted in anger.

... Two days later, when Iraqi Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi addressed his country’s parliament, Trump’s justification for killing Soleimani was exposed as a cynical lie.

According to Abdul-Mahdi, he had planned to meet Soleimani on the morning the general was killed to discuss a diplomatic rapproachment that Iraq was brokering between Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Abdul-Mahdi said that Trump personally thanked him for the efforts, even as he was planning the hit on Soleimani – thus creating the impression that the Iranian general was safe to travel to Baghdad.

Soleimani had arrived in Baghdad ... to coordinate de-escalation with Saudi Arabia.

... The catastrophic results of Soleimani’s killing recall the Obama administration’s 2016 assassination of Mullah Akhtar Muhammad Mansur, a Taliban leader who was eager to negotiate a peaceful end to the US occupation of Afghanistan.

Since Soleimani’s assassination, Iraq’s parliament has voted to expel all US troops from the country ... Trump, for his part, tweeted a litany of gangster-like threats, promising to destroy Iranian cultural sites if it retaliated and pledging to sanction Iraq “like they’ve never been before” if it ousted US troops.

... With its claim of “imminent attacks,” the Trump administration has essentially re-mixed Condoleeza Rice’s 2003 warning that “we don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.” Back then, the US attacked a sovereign state to rid it of WMD that did not exist.

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BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph 

Jan-7

https://thegrayzone.com /2020/01/06/soleimani -peace-mission- assassinated-trump- lie-imminent-attacks/ - this URL is Max Blumenthal's own site.

CONTINUED:

... With its claim of “imminent attacks,” the Trump administration has essentially re-mixed Condoleeza Rice’s 2003 warning that “we don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.” Back then, the US attacked a sovereign state to rid it of WMD that did not exist.

... Pompeo pitched assassinating Soleimani to Trump several months ago, well before any attacks were “imminent.”

... But the preponderance of evidence exposing Trump’s basis for killing Soleimani as a titanic lie has not generated the same level of media interest as the lie itself.

On January 3, CNN assigned three reporters to disseminate the Trump administration’s disinformation about Soleimani, claiming without a hint of critical detachment that he was “planning specific attacks on US interests, including US personnel.”

After the story went live, CNN’s lead reporter, Jim Sciutto, reached out to another official US source to “confirm” his now-discredited piece of war propaganda.

... Sciutto is not just any run-of-the-mill national security reporter ... back behind CNN’s anchor desk, Sciutto poses as a ferocious critic of Trump while providing the Pentagon and State Department with reliable stenographic services.

No president in recent history has been despised more viscerally by the Beltway press corps than Trump. ... But when Trump and his administration attempt to lie the public into war against a designated evildoer, a swath of the corporate media responds with reflexive trust, then shrugs when the lie is exposed in broad daylight.

Anyone need me to post an account of Israel doing something very similar? Killing a peace negotiator by drone to make sure the "war" goes on without end.

Max Blumenthal is a man unambiguously threatened with murder by US police. Arrested on a trumped up charge (taking pizza to the Venezuelan embassay and attacked for it) he was, months later, handcuffed and tossed into a cell and was left for hours with murderers. A similar murder tactic that could have been used on Epstein. 

bml00

From: bml00 

Jan-7

Jenifer,

Purely for my knowledge when ever talk to people about any given interviewer or reporter and mention their faith ?

Do we now need to report and also have to discuss their faith ?

BM

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BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph 

Jan-8

bml00 said:

Purely for my knowledge when ever talk to people about any given interviewer or reporter and mention their faith ? Do we now need to report and also have to discuss their faith ?

I'm very sorry that you've forced me to engage in a small part of your racism.

Max Blumenthal is Jewish and the allegation he's made (since confirmed by the Independent web-site) is very serious.

The US killed Soleimani for his diplomatic activities trying to lower Saudi-Iran tensions.

Same thing that Israel does in its quest for "Eternal Conflict".

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