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Niqab, burka and veils   The U.K and Europe

Started 2/20/20 by Di (amina046); 5284 views.
RGoss99

From: RGoss99

2/28/20

U.S. was allied to France with Britain the common enemy. Which is why we changed to decimal currency about the same time as the French. In artillery both the French and the Americans were the first to change from degrees to mills (unfortunately the U.S. did not go all the way when it came to the metric system. in artillery if one´s piece is shifted 1 mil, the point of inpact is moved 1 meter at 1000 meters. as with most metric things, much easier to calculate then using degrees and yards. The English thing was not just mounted, it was simple from a personal thing, if walking as a civilian or infantryman you want the "other" on the same side as your offensive weapon. Related ironicly Europeans and Americans subconsciously keep to the right, Brits are generally all over the place. which slows pedestrian traffic, clutters stairways, and escalators. the Brits tend to be passive with the problema, Europeans get annoyed. In about a month it Will be a serious problema here with UK tourists who block side walks in pedestrian areas, and the people movers in our airports where for us not only do the people movers move people but locals also move on the movers, Brits generally ride them and arbitrarily stand on either side or two abeast. We don´t hav as complicated a subway system as Barcelona, but locals sence a comming train, but have trouble with the Brits who tend not to keep to the right, making it easier for those in a hurry to pass on the left. I suspect that if someone did a study of side walk traffice comparing London with New York or Palma, with a given number of people and amount of space, London pedestrian traffic would not only be slower  but more frustrating.

RGoss99

From: RGoss99

2/28/20

I agree but there is a cart-horse arrangement because the concept of zionism was not always so when it was simply a term for the dream of return. But when it became an organized possibility with a posible agenda, it certainly did become more aggressive. But this is common to many movements as in Civil Rights in America, the Reformation in Europe, and today the Christian Right, Women´s movement, In all such cases, what has changed is a more aggressive approch  to a social problema. This Works for the supportrs of Brexit and Trump both are dealing with unresolved social issues in a more aggressive way resulting in less positive communication and more devisive actions, less willingness to compromiso for the common Good. An example being the only one exception of the Republicans in the Trump impeachment. Ironicly, here on Delphi there is a "Christian" site attacking the Utah senator who based his vote for guilty on Christian morality.

RGoss99

From: RGoss99

2/28/20

Lénfant, a French engineer Drew the Street pattern for D.C. and Congress has very strict architectural rules when it comes to buildings. As a result it took an act of Congress and a lot of manipulation to get the plan for D.C.´s first mosque. The conflicto was between the need to orientate the structue towards Mecca vs the orientation of the building sight. What does one do with a rectangular building on a rectangular block  where none of the sides point towards Mecca. Solution put in wallls and gardns to conform to the block then insert the building leaving lots of triangular open spaces. Here in Mallorca the presbetry of our Cathedrel sits on the space of the mosque built when the Muslims moved their capital away from the east end of the island facing Rome to the west end facing Africa. When they built the cathedrel they realigned the structure to face East, but the bell tower is off at an angle to the nave because it began life as a Mecca facing mineret. Hard to notice because of the way things are built up here, but from the air the difference in orientation is obvious.

RGoss99 said...

I am unaware of the concept of binary correct vs incorrect English

Your problemas may be a reflection of where you are from, or perhaps from drinking too much aguardiente, whisky, and cervesa.

De donde vengo yo
La cosa no es fácil pero siempre igual sobrevivimos
Vengo yo
De tanto luchar siempre con la nuestra nos salimos
Vengo yo
Y aquí se habla mal pero todo está mucho mejor
Vengo yo
Tenemos la lluvia el frio el calor
De la zona de los rapi mami papi
Tenemos problemas pero andamos happy
Comparsa también bailamos salsa
Y bajamos el rio en balsa
El calor se siente eeh
Y no hay problema pa' tomase su botella de aguardiente
Hace días que soliaos te la pasas enguayabado
Todo el mundo toma whisky aja
Todo el mundo anda en moto aja
Todo el mundo tiene carro aja
Menos nosotros aja
Todo el mundo come pollo aja
Todo el mundo está embambado aja
Todo mundo quiere irse de aquí
Pero ninguno lo ha logrado
De donde vengo yo
la cosa no es fácil pero siempre igual sobrevivimos
Vengo yo
De tanto luchar siempre con la nuestra nos salimos
Vengo yo
Y aquí se habla mal pero todo está mucho mejor
Vengo yo
Tenemos la lluvia el frio el calor
De donde vengo yo
Si mi señor
Se baila en verbena con gorra y con sol
Con raros peinados o con extensión
Critíquenme a mí o lo critico yo
Si tomo cerveza no tengo el botín
Y si tomo whisky hay chaglo y blin blin
Y si tengo oro en el cuello colgado
Hay ia iay es porque estoy montado
Todo el mundo toma whisky aja
Todo el mundo anda en moto aja
Todo el mundo tiene carro aja
Menos nosotros aja
Todo el mundo come pollo aja
Todo el mundo está embambado aja
Todo mundo quiere irse de aquí
Pero ninguno lo ha logrado
De donde vengo yo
La cosa no es fácil pero siempre igual sobrevivimos
Vengo yo
De tanto luchar siempre con la nuestra nos salimos
Vengo yo
Y aquí se habla mal pero todo está mucho mejor
Vengo yo
Tenemos la lluvia el frio el calor
Acá tomamos agua de coco
Lavamos moto
Todo el que no quiere andar en rapi moto
Carretera destapada pa' viajar
No plata pa' comer hey pero si pa' chupar
Característica general alegría total
Invisibilidad nacional e internacional
Auto-discriminación sin razón
Racismo inminente mucha corrupción
Monte culebra
Máquina de guerra
Desplazamientos por intereses en la tierra
Su tienda de pescado
Agua por todo lado
Se represa
Que ni el discovery ha explotado
Hay minas llenas de oro y platino
Reyes en la biodiversidad
Bochinche entre todos los vecinos
Y en deporte ni hablar
De donde vengo yo
Ya cosa no es fácil pero siempre igual sobrevivimos
Vengo yo
De tanto luchar siempre con la nuestra nos salimos
Vengo yo
Y aquí se habla mal pero todo está mucho mejor
Vengo yo
Tenemos la lluvia el frio el calor
Chaio condoto istmita aja
La quinta San Pedro yes quita el disfraz
Chaio condoto istmita aja
La quinta San Pedro yesquita el disfraz
De donde vengo yo
Ya cosa no es fácil pero siempre igual sobrevivimos
Vengo yo
De tanto luchar siempre con la nuestra nos salimos
Vengo yo
Y aquí se habla mal pero todo está mucho mejor
Vengo yo
Tenemos la lluvia el frio el calor
De donde vengo yo
La cosa no es fácil pero siempre igual sobrevivimos
Vengo yo
De tanto luchar siempre con la nuestra nos salimos
Vengo yo
Y aquí se habla mal pero todo está mucho mejor
Vengo yo
Tenemos la lluvia el frio el calor
De la zona de los rapi mami papi
Tenemos problemas pero andamos happy
Comparsa también bailamos salsa
Y bajamos el rio en balsa
El calor se siente eeh
Y no hay problema pa' tomase su botella de aguardiente
Hace días que soliaos te la pasas enguayabado
Todo el mundo toma whisky aja
Todo el mundo anda en moto aja
Todo el mundo tiene carro aja
Menos nosotros aja
Todo el mundo come pollo aja
Todo el mundo está embambado aja
Todo mundo quiere irse de aquí
Pero ninguno lo ha logrado
De donde vengo yo
la cosa no es fácil pero siempre igual sobrevivimos
Vengo yo
De tanto luchar siempre con la nuestra nos salimos
Vengo yo
Y aquí se habla mal pero todo está mucho mejor
Vengo yo
Tenemos la lluvia el frio el calor
De donde vengo yo
Si mi señor
Se baila en verbena con gorra y con sol
Con raros peinados o con extensión
Critíquenme a mí o lo critico yo
Si tomo cerveza no tengo el botín
Y si tomo whisky hay chaglo y blin blin
Y si tengo oro en el cuello colgado
Hay ia iay es porque estoy montado
Todo el mundo toma whisky aja
Todo el mundo anda en moto aja
Todo el mundo tiene carro aja
Menos nosotros aja
Todo el mundo come pollo aja
Todo el mundo está embambado aja
Todo mundo quiere irse de aquí
Pero ninguno lo ha logrado
De donde vengo yo
La cosa no es fácil pero siempre igual sobrevivimos
Vengo yo
De tant
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Di (amina046)

From: Di (amina046)

2/28/20

Que divertido y que caribeño!blush

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

2/29/20

RGoss99 said:

U.S. was allied to France with Britain the common enemy. Which is why we changed to decimal currency about the same time as the French. 

?That's rather different, Independent countries need their own currency.

RGoss99 said:

The English thing was not just mounted, it was simple from a personal thing, if walking as a civilian or infantryman you want the "other" on the same side as your offensive weapon. 

Then there's a mystery why it switched.

RGoss99 said: locals sence a comming train, but have trouble with the Brits who tend not to keep to the right, making it easier for those in a hurry to pass on the left. I suspect that if someone did a study of side walk traffice comparing London with New York or Palma, with a given number of people and amount of space, London pedestrian traffic would not only be slower  but more frustrating.

Interesting.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

2/29/20

RGoss99 said:

I agree but there is a cart-horse arrangement because the concept of zionism was not always so when it was simply a term for the dream of return. But when it became an organized possibility with a posible agenda, it certainly did become more aggressive. 

We know what the first Zionists intended because we have some of their letters from 1882 (making it even more mysterious that we can't see two crucial sets of letters concerning the Holocaust, one in 1933 and one in 1943).

Those first settlers knew exactly what they intended - beating robbing and killing the natives from their homes and lands.

Even the Wackypedia allows some of what's known to be published:

... But the major cause of tension and violence throughout the period 1882-1914 was not accidents, misunderstandings or the attitudes and behaviors of either side, but objective historical conditions and the conflicting interests and goals of the two populations.

... For decades the Zionists tried to camouflage their real aspirations ... Internal correspondence amongst the olim from the very beginning of the Zionist enterprise leaves little room for doubt.[11]

[Benny] Morris provides excerpts from three letters written in 1882 by these first arrivals:

* Vladimir (Ze'ev) Dubnow, one of the Biluim wrote to his brother, the historian Simon Dubnow, in October 1882: "The ultimate goal ... is, in time, to take over the Land of Israel and to restore to the Jews the political independence they have been deprived of for these two thousand years .... The Jews will yet arise and, arms in hand (if need be), declare that they are the masters of their ancient homeland." (Dubnow himself shortly afterward returned to Russia.)[11]

* Ben-Yehuda, who settled in Jerusalem in September 1881, wrote in July 1882 to Peretz Smolenskin in Vienna: "The thing we must do now is to become as strong as we can, to conquer the country, covertly, bit by bit ... We will not set up committees so that the Arabs will know what we are after, we shall act like silent spies, we shall buy, buy, buy."[12]

* In October 1882 Ben-Yehuda and Yehiel Michael Pines, who had arrived in Palestine in 1878, wrote to Rashi Pin, in Vilna: "We have made it a rule not to say too much, except to those ... we trust ... the goal is to revive our nation on its land ... if only we succeed in increasing our numbers here until we are the majority [Emphasis in original] .... There are now only five hundred [thousand] Arabs, who are not very strong, and from whom we shall easily take away the country if only we do it through stratagems [and] without drawing upon us their hostility before we become the strong and populous ones."[13]

The Jewish Virtual Library [1] says of the First Aliyah that nearly half the settlers did not stay in Palestine.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Aliyah#Settlement

Now - why did so many of the settlers abandon Palestine? Answer - they were lousy farmers. Although the land they'd stolen was obviously very valuable (Jaffa Oranges were pouring out of it and providing Vitamin C to the whole population of Europe, freeing them from dependence on berries) they couldn't support themselves on it.

And there's more at the very Zionist Wikipedia - the land-grabbing thugs might have Jewish ancestry but had been rejected at home and behaved in a totally un-Jewish fashion in Palestine.

The relationship of the members of the First Aliyah with the Old Yishuv was strained.

The First Aliyah's settlement efforts were opposed not only by the Old Yishuv's traditionalists, but also by their own settlers.

The First Aliyah's people, on their part, viewed the Old Yishuv as a foreign agency. There were additional disagreements about economic and ideological issues. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Aliyah#Settlement

In December of 1882, 6 months after their arrival, one of the immigrantsis known to have shot dead his first Palestinian - the ensuing protests (200 natives, no immigrants lynched) led his buddies (the non-racist Rothschild settlers in the country since 1878?) to imprison him for the killing but he got off and left the country. It was 4 years before we know of any retaliatory riot serious enough to hurt one of the immigrants.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

2/29/20

C'mon, Adwil, proof positive that Zionism was a criminal enterprise from its inception.

What corruption is it that makes you defend people so violent and grasping and racist?

RGoss99

From: RGoss99

2/29/20

You have taken a quote out of context. As the sentence you left out, "binary" refers to your suggestion that the choice of language, vocabulary, grammar is absolutely right or wrong. The way I was raised, was taught, and taught, is that instead of your binary approach there is no absolutely wrong unless the supposed error interferes with the message being understood, and there is no such thing as absolutely right, as this is a sliding scale based on context. Since the context of my mispelling did not affect the message in whch it was included while not the best possible spelling, as a less then perfect, it does not even cross the line between positive and negative, considerng that I doubt if you are anybody saw the error of one letter affecting the message. Of course it is OK to correct me, you were right, and that is OK, but it is antisocial and rude to unnecessarily base that as the entire justifiction for your post which made no reference to the message. G=G+1 so why are you still posting to me in a thread hijacking.

RGoss99 said...

Actually if you were talking about a washer you should have been more specific in your thread hijackig. My point was that washer+dryer is how I was raised, stating that the dryer is not necessary. In fact in the U.K. for varios reasons, the dryer is going out of fashion. My college never had one, just racks hanging from the ceiling in the same basement room as the washers. G=G+1

Have you ever worked as a Maid/Nanny? I get the impression from your posts here that you have not. This likely explains your ignorance. There's nothing wrong with ordinary ignorance, unless that ignorance becomes willful. Ordinary ignorance can easily cured with education. That's why we have schools.

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