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Started 5/6/20 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 12493 views.
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

5/17/20

I have no problem with Berry responding to any topic.

But if you cannot see that starting an argument about Zionists in a thread devoted to an Indian/China border skirmish is hijacking, then we clearly have a different definition of the term.

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

5/17/20

Venezuela


jra2750 said:

WHO is teaching our children about inferior people?  Parents?  Teachers?  

The MSM - all of it as far as I can tell.

When they're not lying and denying about genocide of the brown people.

2006 ... The Lancet study estimating 100,000 probable deaths [in Iraq] by October 2004 elicited enough comment in England that the government had to issue an embarrassing denial ... it would be at least as accurate to describe it as the report that "as few as 100,000" died.

Though the report was released at the height of the U.S. presidential campaign, it appears that neither of the leading candidates was ever publicly questioned about it.

The reaction follows the general pattern when massive atrocities are perpetrated by the wrong agent. A striking example is the Indochina wars.

In the only poll (to my knowledge) in which people were asked to estimate the number of Vietnamese deaths, the mean estimate was 100,000, about 5% of the official figure; 

... The authors of the study comment that it is as if college students in Germany estimated Holocaust deaths at 300,000, in which case we might conclude that there are some problems in Germany - and if Germany ruled the world, some rather more serious problems.

... the actual toll is unknown, and of no more interest than the also unknown toll of casualties of U.S. chemical warfare. http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/73753/

Note the maths there - 100,000 dead in Vietnam is 5% of 2 million. But the real toll on the region of US meddling and arms is probably in the region of 8 to 10 million. So these estimates by US college students could be just 1% of the real figure.

That's equivalent to a German student thinking the Holocaust killed 60,000 Jews.

adwil

From: adwil

5/17/20

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

These two twunts

My sympathy. Like the word, though.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

5/20/20

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

I spend the bulk of my time here spanking Berry and arguing with Goss about his stupid, fucking macro.

Somebody rewards you for condoning genocide.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

5/20/20

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

I have no problem with Berry responding to any topic. But if you cannot see that starting an argument about Zionists in a thread devoted to an Indian/China border skirmish is hijacking, then we clearly have a different definition of the term.

If it wasn't for Israel the UN would have leant on India and China until they agreed to some kind of negotiation of that piece of border.

They need peace there, since the current state allows criminals to take guns into both countries.

But getting agreements on borders, the most important job that the UN could be doing is blocked by the Zionists who are set on annexation and won't tolerate anything that settles real or imaginary disputes.

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MEDDLY

From: MEDDLY

5/20/20

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

5/20/20

GFC 2020


bml00 said:

This should make Berry's conrflakes taste even better https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/1589723218-s-p-touts-israel-s-economic-outlook-says-country-can-absorb-shock-of-covid-19

You're going to murder a lot more of the untermensch, either with the disease or because you can get away with it.

However, as long as you stop the Palestinians from accessing water, there will be reservoirs of disease you will find hard to avoid.

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

5/20/20

Hostess discussion about Goss' Macro


Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

You mentioned something about help for hosts dealing with problem people in the forum.

The problem people in your Forum are people like Adwil, lying and trying to enforce compliance with genocide.

All this talk about what "historians" may have written - when his buddies foul up and hide the evidence of their genocide.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

5/21/20

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Hostess discussion about Goss' Macro

Goss's macro is no problem to anyone.

His humanity and decency is what threatens genocidal monsters like Adwil.

Can't guess which side Australians would take - some of them might be genocidal monsters too.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

5/22/20

Iran


bml00 said:

duh

You hate me because I'm clearly not stupid.

I've now seen Richard Evans' book on David Irving and am satisfied he falsified history from his first book (Dresden). Fuller explanation in next message rather than overflow this one.

However, he's nowhere near as dishonest as you Israel continues to be!

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-how-israel-systematically-hides-evidence-of-1948-expulsion-of-arabs-1.7435103
International forces overseeing the evacuation of Iraq al-Manshiyya, near today's Kiryat Gat, in March, 1949.Credit: Collection of Benno Rothenberg/Israel State Archives

Burying the Nakba: How Israel Systematically Hides Evidence of 1948 Expulsion of Arabs

Since early last decade, [c. 2000 - ed] Defense Ministry teams have scoured local archives and removed troves of historic documents to conceal proof of the Nakba

July 5 2019 - Four years ago, historian Tamar Novick was jolted by a document she found in the file of Yosef Waschitz, from the Arab Department of the left-wing Mapam Party, in the Yad Yaari archive at Givat Haviva. The document, which seemed to describe events that took place during the 1948 war, began:

“Safsaf [former Palestinian village near Safed] – 52 men were caught, tied them to one another, dug a pit and shot them. 10 were still twitching. Women came, begged for mercy. Found bodies of 6 elderly men. There were 61 bodies. 3 cases of rape, one east of from Safed, girl of 14, 4 men shot and killed. From one they cut off his fingers with a knife to take the ring.”

The writer goes on to describe additional massacres, looting and abuse perpetrated by Israeli forces in Israel’s War of Independence. “There’s no name on the document and it’s not clear who’s behind it,” Dr. Novick tells Haaretz. “It also breaks off in the middle. I found it very disturbing. I knew that finding a document like this made me responsible for clarifying what happened.”

The Upper Galilee village of Safsaf was captured by the Israel Defense Forces in Operation Hiram toward the end of 1948. ... Allegations were made over the years that the Seventh Brigade committed war crimes in the village. Those charges are supported by the document Novick found ... also constitute additional evidence that the Israeli top brass knew about what was going on in real time.

Novick decided to consult ... Benny Morris ... told her that he, too, had come across similar documentation in the past ... Mapam Central Committee member Aharon Cohen ... notes ... “Safsaf 52 men tied with a rope. Dropped into a pit and shot. 10 were killed. Women pleaded for mercy. [There were] 3 cases of rape. Caught and released. A girl of 14 was raped. Another 4 were killed. Rings of knives.”

... this document was also found in the Yad Yaari Archive. But when Novick returned to examine the document, she was surprised to discover that it was no longer there.

... When she asked those in charge where the document was, she was told that it had been placed behind lock and key at Yad Yaari – by order of the Ministry of Defense ... Hundreds of documents have been concealed as part of a systematic effort to hide evidence of the Nakba.

... the operation is being spearheaded by Malmab, the Defense Ministry’s secretive security department ... whose activities and budget are classified. The report asserts that Malmab removed historical documentation illegally and with no authority

... Malmab has concealed testimony from IDF generals about the killing of civilians and the demolition of villages, as well as documentation of the expulsion of Bedouin during the first decade of statehood ... staff of the security department had treated the archives as their property, in some cases threatening the directors themselves.

Yehiel Horev, who headed Malmab for two decades, until 2007 ... maintains that it makes sense to conceal the events of 1948, because uncovering them could generate unrest among the country’s Arab population. 

... According to a document from '48, 70 percent of the Arabs left as a result of Jewish military operations.

... One case the committee discussed concerned “grave actions” carried out in the village of Al-Dawayima, east of Kiryat Gat. "...  further clarification is best. What happened in Galilee – those are Nazi acts! Every one of our members must report what he knows.”

... This document was the basis for an article that Benny Morris published in 1986. After the article appeared, the document was removed from the archive and rendered inaccessible to researcher ... could not have known that a few years later researchers from Akevot would find a copy of the text and run it past the military censors – who authorized its publication unconditionally. Now, after years of concealment, the gist of the document is being revealed here.

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