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CzoeMC

From: CzoeMC

6/1/20

Goss, the only thing that people here really have against you, is your super long, barely legible, either rants or professorial "know-it-all" posts, with judgments and ratings attached. Some of us here are at least, if not more intelligent as you, but you continue to perceive yourself as the ONE Who Knows, as if the rest of us have no knowledge of histories and mysteries.

It's the "I'm superior" arrogance that chaffs. Otherwise, I do agree with many of your opinions. Maybe you should try another tack to express your opinions. Just sayin....

bml00

From: bml00

6/2/20

The US does not send carte blanche their Police to Israel for training , certain states send certain special police units for training (SWAT) for dealing in urban warfare (which we are all watching) most states do not send their special units , most states will train their most elite units )

The average US Policeman is trained in the US , I would guestimate that 95% of all the US Police elite and otherwise are US trained .

The US US also sends Special Forces to Israel for training in close quarter combat but again not all SEALS etc just certain groups so the generalization of Berry is a lie designed to capture a brief moment

BM

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

6/2/20

CzoeMC said:

From Berrysteph: After all, the US sends its police to Israel to be trained in racial profiling. What evidence have you for that statement? If none, therefore it is subjected to a viewpoint, not a fact, and can be filed in the folder of BS.

Well known fact, innit.

Do you understand why there is anything like this happening? Either deliberate brutalization - or maybe an under-the-table subsidy of Israel!

U.S. Police Under Pressure to End Their Relationship With Israel

www.governing.com › topics › gov-israel-us-police-training-programs

20 Dec 2018 - SPEED READ: Since the 1990s, dozens of U.S. police departments have been participating in exchange programs with Israeli police to learn ...

Durham first US city to ban police training with Israeli military ...

www.aljazeera.com › news › 2018/04 › durham-city-ban-police-traini...

19 Apr 2018 - Local council adopts step against exchange with Israeli military practices synonymous with the occupation of Palestine.

Israel Trains D.C. Police Over City Council Objections

theintercept.com › 2017/09/15 › police-israel-cops-training-adl-huma...

15 Sep 2017 - Judging by where many U.S. police forces get their training, the description seems apt. Thousands of American law enforcement officers ...

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

6/2/20

CzoeMC said:

Goss, the only thing that people here really have against you, is your super long, barely legible, either rants or professorial "know-it-all" posts, with judgments and ratings attached.

There are real, serious, issues people might choose to address - but that's not one of them.

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BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

6/2/20

bml00 said:

certain states send certain special police units for training (SWAT) for dealing in urban warfare (which we are all watching) ... sends Special Forces to Israel for training in close quarter combat 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/16/sacha-baron-cohen-guns-children-toddlers-who-is-america-reality
A pastor and NRA firearms instructor offers guidance to his eight-year-old daughter at a gun range. Photograph: Dave Cruz / Barcroft Media

You live in a war-zone and market it for war-games you flog to Americans.

And it works, gun-toting Americans fall over themselves for Israel.

Be proud.

Sacha Baron Cohen's scheme to arm toddlers isn't far from reality

16 Jul 2018 - ...  Sacha Baron Cohen’s new series, Who is America?, launched on Sunday, with guns blazing.

... Col Erran Morad, an Israeli security expert who has devised a “Kinderguardians” scheme that teaches preschoolers to use firearms so they can defend themselves in school shootings.

Morad gets two sitting Republican congressmen, Dana Rohrabacher of California and Joe Wilson of South Carolina, to enthusiastically endorse the program. The former Senate Republican leader Trent Lott and former congressman Joe Walsh, now a talk radio host, also appear in the instructional video, with Walsh explaining to viewers that Kinderguardians “introduces specially selected children, from 12 to four years old, to pistols, rifles, semi-automatics and a rudimentary knowledge of mortars. In less than a month, a first-grader can become a first grenade-er”.

Larry Pratt, the executive director emeritus of Gun Owners of America also makes an appearance in the spoof instructional video. Reading off a teleprompter, Pratt explains that there are biological reasons why kids make great shooters: “Children under five also have elevated levels of the pheromone Blink-182, produced by the part of the liver known as the Rita Ora.”

Another gun rights activist, Philip Van Cleave, appears in the infomercial to show off stuffed animals with weapons inside such as the “Puppy Pistol” and “Uzicorn”.Facebook

RGoss99

From: RGoss99

6/2/20

Already answered mostly, e.g. G=G+1

But for those with short attenion span here is a repeated answer.

Long because soundbite answers seldom contribute to the subject of a discussion as short answers usually over simplify what is more complicated and should be communicated as such. Most are merely a vote of agreement or disagreement and contribute nothing. 

When you say I am acting superior, there is a flip side because with the same data one could assume that my posts make some feel inferior, and to cope with that feeling, they get abusive and attck.

Either I know what your imaginary rest of[us] do or don´t is another issue. If you already know your crit is merely patronizing to those who perhaps don´t know. If you don´t know, what you do with the information is your choice, just as your crit abouth length, you are perfectly allowd to stop reading. If you choose to "suffer" the entire text, your suffering is its own reward for making a bad choice.

As for my "rating" assuming you are referring to the "G" macro. All I am doing is saving my time by not repeating a complaint previously made to the poster which he is choosing to ignore. There are two solutions if you find the "G" too negative to handle, either stop doing whatever I have told you I find offensive or inappropriate, or don´t post to me at all, unless you have something of substance to add.

The reason for the "G" here is because I have alrady provided this information, and you are repeating a comment while ignoring my answer. Only a spoiled child repeats his demands after he has already been told "no".

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bml00

From: bml00

6/2/20

War Zone - that is why more and more Jews are moving to Israel .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s6W1EZDmN4

BM

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BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

6/2/20

bml00 said:

War Zone - that is why more and more Jews are moving to Israel .

Bizarre behaviour. Are they Jews or are they followers of Baruch Goldstein?

... A few days after Chief of Staff Ehud Barak imposed a curfew on the families and friends of the victims of the massacre, all of them Palestinian inhabitants of Hebron, in order to ensure the safety of the murderer's neighbors and admirers, Rabin arrived for a summit meeting at the White House.

At a joint press conference with President Bill Clinton, Rabin said that evacuating the settlements was a matter that must be discussed in negotiations for the final-status agreement.

In a conversation with Israeli journalists, Rabin admitted that he felt uncomfortable that tens of thousands of Palestinians, the people of Hebron, were under curfew because of the 400 inhabitants of the Jewish settlement in the town, and added that he was puzzling over how to solve this.18

In a private exchange with Dennis Ross, head of the American peace team, Rabin wondered about the wisdom of his decision not to evacuate the 400 Hebron settlers.19

In the summer of 1995, a period of wild settler demonstrations against Oslo and Rabin himself, numerous political and security people heard Rabin say that diplomatically it was incumbent on him to uproot the Hebron settlers after the massacre but that politically the act had not been possible.

What happened to Rabin while he hesitated regarding the settlements, in Hebron as well as in other sensitive regions, is well known; he was assassinated by an ardent supporter of settlements.

So far not one of the Hebron settlers has been evacuated, while large neighborhoods at the heart of the town have been gradually, as a result of the settlers' violence and harassments, emptied of their original Palestinian inhabitants. "LORDS OF THE LAND: The War Over Israel's Settlements in the Occupied Territories, 1967-2007" 2005 in Hebrew, 2007 in English. Idith Zertal and Akiva Eldar

Only an evil people would not be horrified and demand justice for the victims of this massacre.

There is no Islamic anti-semite as effective in creating hatred of Jews as this rabbi and the entire academic, political, military and religious establishment of Israel:

At Goldstein's funeral, Rabbi Yaacov Perrin claimed that even one million Arabs are "not worth a Jewish fingernail".[24][25][26]

Samuel Hacohen, a teacher at a Jerusalem college, declared Goldstein the "greatest Jew alive, not in one way but in every way" and said that he was "the only one who could do it, the only one who was 100 percent perfect."[25][26] In contrast, mainstream Jewish religious leaders "rejected the suggestion that killing Palestinians with an automatic rifle" was authorized by the Torah.[24] Rabbi Dov Lior of Kiryat Arba declared that Goldstein was "holier than all the martyrs of the Holocaust."[27]

In the weeks following the massacre, hundreds of Israelis traveled to Goldstein's grave to celebrate Goldstein's actions. Some Hasidim danced and sang around his grave.[28] Although the government has said that those who celebrated the massacre represented only a minority of Israelis, a New York Times report states that Israeli government claims may understate the phenomenon.[28]

According to one visitor to the gravesite in the wake of the attacks, "If [Goldstein] stopped these so-called peace talks, then he is truly holy because this is not real peace."[28] Some visitors kissed and hugged the gravestone, or even kissed the earth under which Goldstein was buried, declaring him a "saint" and "hero of Israel".[28]

The phenomenon of the adoration of Goldstein's tomb persisted for years.[7] The grave's epitaph said that Goldstein "gave his life for the people of Israel, its Torah and land".[8] In 1999, after the passing of Israeli legislation outlawing monuments to terrorists, the Israeli army dismantled the shrine that had been built to Goldstein at the site of his interment.

However, the tombstone and its epitaph, calling Goldstein a martyr with clean hands and a pure heart, was left untouched.[8] In the years after the dismantling of the shrine, radical Jewish settlers continued to celebrate the anniversary of the massacre in the West Bank, sometimes even dressing up themselves or their children to look like Goldstein.[7][29]

In 2010, Jewish settlers were criticized that during celebrations of Purim they sang songs praising Baruch Goldstein's massacre demonstratively in front of their Arab neighbours.

A phrase from the song reads "Dr. Goldstein, there is none other like you in the world. Dr. Goldstein, we all love you… he aimed at terrorists' heads, squeezed the trigger hard, and shot bullets, and shot, and shot."[30] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Goldstein#Veneration_of_Goldstein_and_celebration_of_the_massacre

CzoeMC

From: CzoeMC

6/2/20

RGoss99 said:

If you choose to "suffer" the entire text, your suffering is its own reward for making a bad choice.

So true, I will continue to keep that in mind.

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