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Erasing History, or Editing it?   General Confusion

Started 6/13/20 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 2822 views.
SQUADDYB

From: SQUADDYB

6/28/20

It was being sold on a local community board. Looked like a piece of concrete that he broke up in his yard! LOL

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Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

6/29/20

I agree.

But you have to get into the context.

Why was the bust of a KKK founder even commissioned in 1978?

And it's not like you can't empathise with how it would feel to have to walk past a statue of Hitler on your way to work every morning.

He was a pretty important historical figure.

bml00

From: bml00

6/29/20

I abhor the KKK and their followers and ideology but it is part and parcel of what makes America the land of the free for better or for worse and if statues are to be removed you MUST have a wider general consensus

BM

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Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

6/30/20

Removing a statue does not erase the history.

The history needs to be taught in schools.

These busts and statues are only of interest in a specifically designated place - such as a museum devoted to the Civil war, slavery and the history of the US.

bml00

From: bml00

6/30/20

A statue is a Land Mark , it is part and parcel for better or worse of the USA and its foundation BUT it is not for one Group to decide what is appropriate it is for the City / Town and all its inhabitants .

The BLM will lose steam soon as it continues to over reach itself

BM

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Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

7/1/20

The fight for equality and civil rights will never "lose steam".

It may go off the boil occasionally, but will always be simmering beneath.

See what I did there?

bml00

From: bml00

7/1/20

There are now phtos appearing from BLM supporters etc with some very anti semtic cannards as I said the BLM will achieve very limited success it is not a single focused ideal this is about changing everything they way they see it and it wont happen

BM

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Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

7/2/20

Can you show me an example of one?

bml00

From: bml00

7/2/20

https://www.israelhayom.com/2020/06/26/the-silent-american-jews/

READ about the attacks on Synagogues

https://www.wzo.org.il/antisemitism/index.php?dir=site&page=articles&op=item&cs=4531

Read the above as I said BLM have taken upon themselves to change the World in their own likeness and it wont happen they are over reaching and support will wane

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8475857/Black-Lives-Matter-accused-anti-Semitism-posting-photo-controversial-mural.html

bml00

From: bml00

7/2/20

https://www.takimag.com/article/jewicide-bombers/ - any interesting take on the BLM

Jews in the US CIVIL Rights https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/jews-in-the-civil-rights-movement/

Jews who fought against apartheid https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/46721943.pdf

In his autobiography Long Walk to Freedom Nelson Mandela notes, “I have found Jews to be more broad-minded than most whites on the issues of race and politics, perhaps because they themselves have historically been victims of prejudice.”1 As a law student at the University of Witwatersrand, Mandela met Harold Wolpe, Ruth First, and Joe Slovo who would become lifelong friends and then comrades in battle. After graduating, it was Lazar Sidelsky who would give him his first job as an articled clerk at a time when few white firms would hire a black. Sidelsky was also “involved in African education, donating money and time to African schools.”2 In fact, among whites it was Jews who would offer Mandela the greatest support and encouragement; those who hid him when he was forced to go underground; those who, as lawyers, defended him at trial; those who, as journalists, supported the anti-apartheid cause; and those politicians, like Helen Suzman, who made it their mission to see that Mandela and other political prisoners received the best treatment possible from a legal and penal system structured to humiliate and degrade black prisoners. There were even relatively apolitical Jews like Nadine Gordimer who did their part on Mandela’s behalf; Gordimer secretly helped edit the famous speech Mandela gave in his defense at the Rivonia trial,3 and donated all the prize money from her 1991 Nobel Prize for Literature to the Congress of South African Writers, an organization aligned with the ANC. And Mandela’s relationship with Jews was by no means exceptional; the same can be said of other “historic” black ANC leaders, such as Walter Sisulu, Oliver Tambo, and Moses Kotane.

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