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The Failed Coup Fallout   America - all of it

Started 1/9/21 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 20282 views.
jra2750

From: jra2750

Mar-10

The blame game is on with the ultimate result being more gov't intervention into our lives and little punishment for the troublemakers.

Proving conspiracy to harm America will B difficult to prove if not impossible.  Maybe a few months in jail?  A fine?

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

Mar-11

RRBud said:

I do think the "insurrection" was planned and organized at least days in advance by our domestic enemies - - ANTIFA, some BLM, plus other terrorist organizations funded in part by George Soros and other self-declared enemies of the USA.

OK... for what purpose?  The election was already over.  Trump lost.  They had their man on the way to the White House.

Why would they deliberately endanger that?

And why have no ANTIFA people been named in the 300 odd arrests that have been made?

I'm not attacking your beliefs, I'm just trying to understand the logic.

On the surface, it looks like you are simply moving the goalposts every time something contradicts your world-view.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

Mar-11

We're taught all through our lives in books and movies that the bad guy always gets what he deserves.

In real life, that is not true.

Republican laws are being put in place to ensure people can't vote in the states that handed the election to Biden.  They will use them to regain control of the senate to ensure nothing gets done for the rest of Biden's single term, then it will be either Trump II, Trump Jr or Ted Cruz in the big chair.

RRBud

From: RRBud

Mar-11

Why they'd do their "insurrection" is simple - - they want to destroy our form of government and install a Communist dictatorship.  Just read up on what Soros et al have been openly declaring for decades.

And I'm not changing my position at all - - I'm just refusing to get drawn into a swirlie.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

Mar-12

RRBud said:

they want to destroy our form of government and install a Communist dictatorship.

Trump refused to accept the outcome of the election and sent a mob to use violence to return him to office.

Those are the actions of a dictator - or, in this case, a wannabe dictator.

Do you think of healthcare and social security as communism?

RRBud

From: RRBud

Mar-12

Misinformation.  Regardless the propaganda you heard, Trump did NOT send any mob to use violence to return him to office.  The mob that entered the Capitol was led by Antifa, BLM, and some other terrorist sorts.  SOME of the people who entered the building were just curious, or were just going along with the flow, but that was very unwise.

Trump's ACTUAL actions were well in keeping with our laws and customs.  What the Antifa, BLM et al terrorists were doing was the behavior of a lawless mob intent on disrupting the functioning of our government.  They had and have nothing at all in common with Trump or actual Trump supporters.

Public healthcare and social security have their roots in basic Socialism, but are not of themselves indicative of Communism, as you know very well.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

Mar-13

RRBud said:

The mob that entered the Capitol was led by Antifa, BLM, and some other terrorist sorts.

Name ONE.

Meanwhile, here are some actual names of people arrested.

This is a detailed list of ALL the arrests so far.  There are notes on these people where applicable.

One of the rioters wrote on his personal Facebook account: “Don’t you dare try to tell me that people are blaming this on antics and BLM. We proudly take responsibility for storming the Castle.”

(The fact that he misspelt ANTIFA, is a good indication he has nothing to do with them).

Here are some others.

These are just four articles chosen from 31 million search results to the terms "Names of people arrested from capitol riots".  By all means, conduct your own search to find me a single name of any person with ties to BLM or ANTIFA.

Before you make the sweeping statement that every single article is lying, please consider the logistics necessary to do that.  Every single news organisation, across multiple cities and countries, need to generate a secret pact to lie to the public about who was involved in the riots.  They then need to maintain that secret, while trying to exist in an industry that thrives on exposing the truth, surrounded by roving reporters and inquisitive journalists.

Or, perhaps you are insinuating that the department of justice is lying?

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Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

Mar-13

This is the stupidest thread on the whole forum.

Jennifer, Do you believe this stuff?   I guess the media has managed to work you and a few million other people into hysterics.    This 'insurrection' thing is nonsense.  Complete and utter bunk.  It's firm evidence that you need to stop watching the corporate media.  They are pushing these thoughts because they are pushing for a totalitarian state.  And you are going along with them!!

There was no 'insurrection'.  There was more damage done in a typical day's rioting by antifa and BLM than has happened from the right in the past thirty years.

We have witnessed an orgy of censorship from Silicon Valley monopolies with calls for far more aggressive speech policing, a visibly militarized Washington, D.C. featuring a non-ironically named “Green Zone,” vows from the incoming president and his key allies for a new anti-domestic terrorism bill, and frequent accusations of “sedition,” “treason,” and “terrorism” against members of Congress and citizens. This is all driven by a radical expansion of the meaning of “incitement to violence.” It is accompanied by viral-on-social-media pleas that one work with the FBI to turn in one’s fellow citizens (See Something, Say Something!) and demands for a new system of domestic surveillance.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

Mar-15

Insurrection:  A violent uprising against an authority or government.

Are you saying this did not happen?

Apollonius (Theocritos) said:

There was more damage done in a typical day's rioting by antifa and BLM than has happened from the right in the past thirty years.

No, white supremacist hate groups are surpassing all terrorist groups to become the dominant threat in America.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-116hhrg36828/html/CHRG-116hhrg36828.htm

https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/s894/BILLS-116s894is.xml

I have deliberately avoided using any news sources in the hopes you will consider an alternative point of view.

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