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slackerx

From: slackerx

Aug-3

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said...

He is pestering you, but has not been abusive, profane or cruel.

Speaking of abusive and cruel, I really need to get back to posting some history. BM doesn't even know the meaning of the words abusive and cruel. My wife's ancestors were amoung the most barbaric, cruel and salvage cultures when it comes to warfare in the entire history of Colombia. (And they've had some pretty stiff competition over the last 500 years.)

BM really needs to read some history. I spent most of yesterday typing out some history in response to a post by Lucidade. Maybe I'll crosspost it to my Bolívar thread.

(What the hell does profane mean, anyway?)

slackerx

From: slackerx

Aug-3

We all live in a multicultural world, and everybody's got their traditions.

In some cultures, when you get married, they hit you upside the head with a broom and play the Violin.

What is it that you have against multiculturalism, anyway?  

Roots 2016 Episode 2 - Wedding scene

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slackerx

From: slackerx

Aug-3

BullyMan said...
el gringo (ramseylurker) said...
BullyMan said...

The days of the Nomad in Israel are over 

BM

Thank you for your input.

It's always good to get the opinions of white male Brits regarding multiculturalism in foreign lands.

I live in Israel have done for 44 years .

If you have anything to say which adds up to anything more than your usual shite go ahead , if not dont bother 

BM

Look, I understand that you see yourself as a great Warrior. But somehow you've become unballanced.

This dude saw himself as a great Warrior, as well. He made a pact with the devil, and exchanged his soul for an Uzi, which he passed on to a little 9 year old girl who scored a head shot on her very first try. Instant karma. Dude was playing with forces he didn't understand. He lost his ballance. He was no Warrior. A True Warrior needs to be conscious of the forces that she or he is playing with. 

9-year-old girl accidentally kills shooting instructor with Uzi

This is what a True Warrior looks like:

ESPEJO RETROVISOR - BAMBUCO PATIANO

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Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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bml00 said:

...or you have converted to Judaism via the Orthodox route

Can he do this?  

bml00

From: bml00

Aug-4

Of course he can covert to Judaism correctly , his problem (I am just guessing this ) is that via the Orthodox route takes time and it takes time deliberately to make sure the convert is sincere .

The other conversion routes via (as an example) Liberal or Reform Judaism are MUCH quicker but the problem he would have is that they are not recognized (yet) in Israel as being acceptable .

His options are to get married in Cyprus in a civil ceremony then come back to Israel , register the marriage which is then legally accepted under civil law but not Religious and in his case as the Women is Jewish then their Kids will be Jewish with no questions asked .

BM

(1) Becoming a Jew - YouTube

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slackerx

From: slackerx

Aug-4

bml00 said:

Of course he can covert to Judaism correctly

By "correctly" he means Orthodox. Black Catholics have had similar problems with being considered as unorthodox, but it's improving. (One white catholic in the OP forum even called Black Catholicism "shit".) Aparently, similar problems exist within Judaism as well.

https://www.everyculture.com/South-America/Afro-Colombians-Religion-and-Expressive-Culture.html

Afro-Colombians - Religion and Expressive Culture
Black people in Colombia are Catholics. As among many people in Latin America, they tend to practice a "popular Catholicism" that the clergy considers more or less unorthodox. In the past and still in the 1990s, the clergy tended to disapprove of practices in Black regions, but with the emergence of a stronger Black identity, some priests are willing to include "traditional" elements in church ceremonies.
 

In the Pacific region, the presence of the church was rather weak, and many religious rites are practiced outside the direct control of the clergy. There are festivals to venerate a saint or the Virgin Mary, an image of whom is processed through a settlement and often down a river—in a town such as Quibdó, capital of the department of Chocó, the Fiestas de San Pacho (Saint Francis of Assisi) have the aspect of a carnival as different barrios compete to present the best procession and float over twelve days. Velorios, or wakes to propitiate a saint, are usually sponsored by a specific person who provides drink, tobacco, and food. There are also wakes to commemorate the death of a person. Music is a vital element in these rites, with cantadoras (female singers), who may also take role of rezanderas (prayer sayers). Aguardiente (rum) is commonly taken by the participants to combat the coldness of the deceased; beyond the immediate circle of the corpse, where respect is shown, people play dominoes, drink rum, and tell stories and jokes. At the velorio of a child (whose soul is considered to go directly to heaven, a cause for rejoicing), there may be some merriment and perhaps games that may have sexual overtones.
 
Less research has been conducted in the Caribbean coastal region but one study shows extensive similarities between this region and the Pacific coast, although perhaps greater attention is accorded to spirits than to saints. In Palenque de San Basilio, the cabildo lumbalú consists of elders who officiate at velorios with drumming, singing, and dancing to help the deceased's departure. Spirits of the deceased are called upon to aid the living and must therefore be propitiated and managed carefully through ritual means, for example during the velorio, when many precautions are taken to prevent the spirit's return or anger. Ritual specialists, often women, are accorded prestige and respect. Some observers interpret the interest shown in spirits and saints as in some measure related to African religious concerns with ancestral spirits and the propitiation of deities. It is hard to discount some African influences, but velorios and a concern with spirits and saints are also widespread in non-Black areas.
 
Work in the Cauca region has focused on elements that are in fact common in other Black (and indeed non-Black) regions: the use of magic and sorcery to attack one's enemies, bring good fortune, influence one's sexual partners, and defend oneself against the machinations of others. Sorcery is often used where envidia, envy, is rife and this in turn may be the result of perceived transgressions against norms of reciprocity, which occur when a person enjoys some material success and is thought to forget his or her obligations as a friend or relative. In this area, too, the pact made with the devil to increase a worker's output and wages has been documented. The gains achieved are fruitless, however—they cannot be usefully invested and must be spent on consumables; the worker will also gradually waste away. In the northern Cauca region, Black people also celebrate various festivals, including the Adoration of the Child.
 
There is very little information available on medical practices among Black Colombians. In general terms, as among many peoples all over Latin America, health is considered to be a balance between "hot" and "cold" forces and elements that affect the body: the cold of a corpse can be threatening, for example, and is combated by the heat of rum. Also, health and welfare are affected by the machinations of others through sorcery, and recourse can be made to healers to defend against these threats, whether to person or property. In the Pacific region, Indian shamans (called jaibanas in the department of Chocó) are considered the most powerful healers: they and their patients may use pildé, a relative of the hallucinogenic Banisteriopsis caapi vine (ayahuasca), to induce visions. In the Chocó, Black curers are called raicilleros (raicilla means "rootlet" but also refers to the ipecac root); they diagnose illness by examining urine samples. When they are given a sign that healing is their vocation, raicilleros begin a seven-year training with various teachers. Less specialized healers are called yerbateros (herbalists).
 
Music in Black regions of Colombia is varied and rich. In the department of Chocó, the chirimía band—based on clarinets, drums, and cymbals—plays versions of European-derived dances (e.g., mazurka, polka); there are also alabaos (religious songs), romances (ballads), and décimas (ten-line stanzas). Further south in the Pacific region, currulao, played with marimba, drums, and voices, is a central genre generally thought to have a more African derivation. In the northern Cauca region, fugas (fugues) and coplas (rhyming couplets) are European-derived forms that are widely played and sung among Black people.
 
In the Caribbean coast region, there is a huge variety of styles, including the cumbia, which exists in both folkloric and commercialized forms. Music there is often held to be of triethnic origin, but the major inputs have come from European and African traditions in a complex cultural interchange. During the twentieth century, genres f
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bml00

From: bml00

Aug-9

This is acceptable to you ? This you are tolerating ?
slackerx said:

All that our goddaughter's aunt wanted was to see her family for Christmas. For that one single sin, BM dances on her grave. Fuck the real War on Christmas. And fuck BM for not allowing Catholics to celebrate Christmas in peace. Fuck BM's Water War on America. Why do our families have to die just to please BM? Black Lives Matter. Indigenous Lives Matter. Fuck Tom Metzger and all of his supporters, including BM. I don't trust anybody who supports Tom Metzger. And fuck the Nazi Water Wars seeking to divide America. More than 10,000 Catholics have died due to BM's Water War on America.

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bml00

From: bml00

Aug-9

This was reported to Jenifer she did nothing

BM

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

Aug-10

I have no idea where this crap has come from, or why it is in my forum.

You have clearly dragged an argument from another forum in here and are inexplicably blaming me for it.

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

Aug-10

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