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Delta Air Lines jacks up health insurance premiums for unvaccinated employees   America - all of it

Started 8/27/21 by Raven2018; 7747 views.
CzoeMC

From: CzoeMC

9/13/21

There is no justifiable/provable reason, IMO, to charge a non-vaccinated person more than a vaccinate person for health insurance. (per Raven, my quote thing isn't working)

What? The health care costs alone to care for a covid patient can be more than that person could earn in their entire life.

It is so sad and traumatic for doctors and nurses to experience the last, gasping breaths of patients who beg their families to get the vaccine "I was wrong". Especially when those same caregivers had been advocating for the vaccine in their communities, and met by hysterical Trumpian based resistance to the point of being threatened.

Not to mention the long term effects, brought to you by the Mayo Clinic:

  • Fatigue
  • Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
  • Cough
  • Joint pain
  • Chest pain
  • Memory, concentration or sleep problems
  • Muscle pain or headache
  • Fast or pounding heartbeat
  • Loss of smell or taste
  • Depression or anxiety
  • Fever
  • Dizziness when you stand
  • Worsened symptoms after physical or mental activities

Video: Long-term symptoms, complications of COVID-19

Organ damage caused by COVID-19

Although COVID-19 is seen as a disease that primarily affects the lungs, it can damage many other organs as well. This organ damage may increase the risk of long-term health problems. Organs that may be affected by COVID-19 include:

  • Heart. Imaging tests taken months after recovery from COVID-19 have shown lasting damage to the heart muscle, even in people who experienced only mild COVID-19 symptoms. This may increase the risk of heart failure or other heart complications in the future.
  • Lungs. The type of pneumonia often associated with COVID-19 can cause long-standing damage to the tiny air sacs (alveoli) in the lungs. The resulting scar tissue can lead to long-term breathing problems.
  • Brain. Even in young people, COVID-19 can cause strokes, seizures and Guillain-Barre syndrome — a condition that causes temporary paralysis. COVID-19 may also increase the risk of developing Parkinson's disease and Alzheimer's disease.

Some adults and children experience multisystem inflammatory syndrome after they have had COVID-19. In this condition, some organs and tissues become severely inflamed.

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CzoeMC

From: CzoeMC

9/13/21

And there is this! Might get the good ol' boys worried...

https://www.webmd.com/lung/covid-erectile-dysfunction#1

* (from the article)

ED as a side effect of COVID-19 can be short- or long-term. But experts are not sure if these complications can lead to issues with fertility.

Tell your doctor right away if you think you have ED, especially after a COVID-19 infection. They’ll ask about your medical history and give you a physical exam. They might also order lab tests or refer you to a urologist. That’s a doctor who specializes in treating problems in the male reproductive tract. They’ll figure out what’s causing your ED and come up with a treatment plan.

Experts recommend getting the COVID-19 vaccine to lower your risk of ED as a side effect.

*So, higher insurance costs for the unvaxed group? Yes. When BobbyRay can't get it up, why should we pay for his dysfunction?

  • Edited September 13, 2021 1:59 am  by  CzoeMC
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CzoeMC

From: CzoeMC

9/13/21

Oh that's going to make the South rise (not) again.

Now we can get angry white men storming the Capital, all enraged because they have limp dicks.

  • Edited September 13, 2021 2:59 am  by  CzoeMC
Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

9/13/21

Raven2018 said:

If it, actually, did happen on the plane there is no way to proves that it was contracted from the non-vaccinated flight attendant; as it could have easily been contracted by the vaccinated flight attendant.

This is a fair point.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

9/13/21

CzoeMC said:

Now we can get angry white men storming the Capital, all enraged because they have limp dicks.

Well I'm thinking they're already small.

Raven2018

From: Raven2018

9/13/21

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Raven2018 said: If it, actually, did happen on the plane there is no way to proves that it was contracted from the non-vaccinated flight attendant; as it could have easily been contracted by the vaccinated flight attendant.

This is a fair point.

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Thank you!

Raven2018

From: Raven2018

9/15/21

You cannot (or shouldn't) charge people money, for something that you would never be able to prove (beyond a reasonable doubt) that they did wrong.

If a person, is involved in an automobile accident it can be proven who is at fault, and if one has a habit of causing auto accidents, driving drunk, speeding then their insurance rates should increase.

However, to charge a person extra before they have done any harm ... and may never do any harm ... is ludicrous!

CzoeMC

From: CzoeMC

9/15/21

Raven2018 said:

You cannot (or shouldn't) charge people money, for something that you would never be able to prove (beyond a reasonable doubt) that they did wrong.

The provable part of them doing "wrong" is simply being like a Dennis the Menace, stamping the collective feet as if spoiled princesses, saying "NO NO I WON'T get the vaccine, because libs told me to, and I trust Trump's scientific knowledge more than doctors".

I am so glad that you continue to be in good health, without the vaccine, but more and more people are dying in hospitals every day from covid. The doctors and nurses are overwhelmed (my best friend's hubby is a covid care nurse), and people are afraid to go to the hospital for chest pains, diabetic emergencies, etc, because the hospitals are full up. And they don't want to get the variant, even while vaccinated.

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CzoeMC

From: CzoeMC

9/15/21

CzoeMC said:

(my best friend's hubby is a covid care nurse)

He doesn't like to talk about it much, but when he gets home from work, he leaves the garage and immediately strips off his clothes into the washing machine, takes a shower, and snuggles up to Julie.

Sometimes he cries, about holding someone's hand as they are painfully gasping for breath, taking in their last breaths of air as they die. Family can't be allowed in, so he is their only comfort as they pass. 

So, he as a nurse, will probably have some stress syndrome problems.  Before the vaccinations were available, he had much sympathy, but it is getting harder for him to endure to help those who would not help themselves.

katiek2

From: katiek2

9/15/21

We should have nothing but the greatest admiration for health workers, esp. those working with covid patients.   I have no patience for anti-vaxxers, but do agree a one size fits all mandate is not the way to go.   I can think of no reason to punish persons that have immunity from previous infection, or have verified medical conditions that preclude taking the vaccine.  

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