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Trump vs The Republican Party   America - all of it

Started 10/24/17 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 3858 views.
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Donald Trump slammed by Republicans Bob Corker and Jeff Flake for his 'disregard of truth'

United States senator Bob Corker has eviscerated President Donald Trump repeatedly on national television, calling him a liar who has "debased the country" in an extraordinary diatribe against a sitting president by a fellow Republican.

Key points:

  • Corker says "debasement" of America is what Trump will be remembered for
  • He says that world leaders are aware that the US President blatantly lies
  • Trump hits back that Corker made the US a global joke with the Iran deal
  • Another senator says he won't run next year as politics has become "undignified".

Senator Corker, who is not seeking re-election next year, accused the President of telling falsehoods that could easily be proven wrong and of wilfully damaging the country's standing in the world, exposing deepening divisions in the Republican Party under Mr Trump's White House.

"The President has great difficulty with the truth on many issues," Senator Corker said in a CNN interview at the Capitol, before Mr Trump was due to meet with senators to seek consensus on proposed tax cuts.

"It's amazing. Unfortunately world leaders are very aware that much of what he says is untrue," Senator Corker continued, in the sharpest of his bitter public exchanges with the President in recent weeks.

Shortly after, Mr Trump was also attacked in a dramatic speech on the Senate floor by Republican Jeff Flake, who said American politics had become inured to "reckless, outrageous and undignified" behaviour from the White House.

"The instinct to scapegoat and belittle threatens to turn us into a fearful, backward-looking people," said Senator Flake, who announced he would not run for re-election next year.



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Just week's before the first anniversary of Mr Trump's election as America's 45th President, Republicans have yet to register a major legislative achievement despite holding the White House and majorities in both houses of Congress.

The Faustian bargain that many Republicans made with Mr Trump isn't paying off.

Senator Flake was unusual for never falling into line behind a President he saw as deeply, morally flawed and unqualified.

Senator Corker, while never as vocal a supporter as someone like now Attorney-General Jeff Sessions, was very much in the camp of "let's make Trump the President we need him to be".

He now acknowledges Mr Trump isn't up to the task, in part because he doesn't want to be.

Senator Corker, whose committee has oversight of the State Department, had argued the likes of Secretary Rex Tillerson, James Mattis at Defence and more recently chief of staff General John Kelly would be enough to steer the novice President in the right direction.

Senator Corker now refers to them as running an "adult daycare" operation, while Mr Trump is in danger of starting World War III.

Senator Flake and Senator Corker aren't the only Republicans prepared to speak out against Mr Trump; the ailing John McCain seems to be having some grim sport in pulling his support and demanding a return to a normal order.

Bitter infighting won't go away

But where does this all end?

It is possible that a deep split will appear
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Who knew Paul Ryan was a comedian?


On Secretary of State Rex Tillerson

"I want to thank Patricia Heaton. Patricia and I do go back a long ways. Because you know what, Patricia Heaton, she is a Hollywood Republican. A Hollywood Republican. That is an oxymoron. Which clearly was the word that Rex Tillerson was searching for."

On Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer

"A lot of people, they ask me, you know, a guy from Wisconsin, what's it like to work with an abrasive New Yorker with a loud mouth? But you know, once you get to know him, Chuck Schumer's not all that bad.

I know why he's been so hard on the president, actually — it has nothing to do with ideology. You see, Chuck's mad that he lost his top donor.

Chuck is 66 years old, which makes him part of the Democratic leadership youth movement."

On the media's preference for Hillary Clinton last November

"When you take a look at where we are this year, just think about it for a second. Think about all that has happened since the last Al Smith dinner. It's been almost a year ago that on November the 8th, countless shocked Americans broke into tears over the election results. But enough about the press."

On the Russia investigation

"You know, we have primaries in the Republican Party these days. My primary opponent in 2016 was endorsed by Sarah Palin. And I'm really not that mad about it, because Sarah and I actually have a lot in common. We both lost for vice president, we both debated Joe Biden. And given the current investigations, I, too, can see Russia from the House."

On filibusters

"The only basic difference between a Catholic Mass and a filibuster is that one ends with a sip of wine and the other ends with an entire bottle."

On former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon

"Here's one that's kind of interesting ... The fact that you learn when you are speaker: I'm now second in line of succession since Steve Bannon has resigned."

On Sen. Ted Cruz's, R-Texas, accidental 'like' of a pornographic tweet

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George Bush Sr reveals he voted for Hillary Clinton over 'blowhard' Donald Trump

George Bush Sr has revealed in a new book that he voted for Hillary Clinton instead of "blowhard" Donald Trump in last year's US election.

Yes, you read that correctly.

And that's not all — George W Bush didn't vote for Mr Trump either.

Here's how we know:

A new book is set to be released later this month, in which the two former leaders open up about their relationship.

But the book, entitled The Last Republicans and written by historian Mark Updegrove, also explores how both men feel about the US President.

In short, they're not fans.

According to the book, George HW Bush, who served as president from 1989 to 1993, has an instinctive dislike of Mr Trump.

The 93-year-old reveals he voted for Mrs Clinton at the 2016 election and describes Mr Trump as a "blowhard" driven by ego, who lacks a commitment to public service.

Gee Mr Bush, tell us how you really feel.



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Donald Trump considering plan to replace Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, US officials say

US President Donald Trump is considering a plan to oust Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who has had a strained relationship with his boss over North Korea and other issues, senior administration officials said.

Key points:

  • Mr Trump has publicly criticised Mr Tillerson's efforts on North Korea
  • Mr Trump reportedly asked his staff to develop a transition strategy
  • CIA director Mike Pompeo is rumoured to replace Mr Tillerson

Mr Tillerson would be replaced by CIA director Mike Pompeo, known as a Trump loyalist, within weeks under a White House plan to carry out the most significant staff shakeup so far of his administration.

Republican senator Tom Cotton would be tapped to replace Mr Pompeo at the Central Intelligence Agency, the officials told Reuters.

Mr Tillerson's long-rumoured departure would end a troubled tenure for the former Exxon Mobil Corp chief executive who has been increasingly at odds with Mr Trump over policy challenges such as North Korea and under fire for his planned cuts at the State Department.

Mr Tillerson was reported in October to have privately called Mr Trump a "moron," something the Secretary of State sought to dismiss.

That followed a tweet by Mr Trump a few days earlier that Mr Tillerson should not waste his time by seeking negotiations with North Korea over its nuclear and missile program.

Mr Trump labelled the insult reports "fake news", but also challenged Mr Tillerson to an IQ test which the President suggested he would win.

Mr Trump asked John Kelly, the White House chief of staff, to develop the transition strategy and it has already been discussed with other officials, one administration source said.

Under the plan, which was first reported by the New York Times, the staff reshuffle would happen around the end of the year or shortly afterwards.


When will someone tell this guy he is not on The Apprentice anymore?

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Donald Trump dismisses reports Rex Tillerson is leaving White House as 'fake news'

United States President Donald Trump has denied he wanted to oust Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, calling reports to that effect "fake news," as his top diplomat brushed off speculation he has lost the confidence of the White House.

Key points:

  • Trump labels claims that Tillerson was fired as 'FAKE NEWS'
  • Aides stress request for Secretary of State to step down had not been made
  • Tillerson to lose key senior aide in coming weeks

As Mr Tillerson went about his normal schedule of diplomatic activities, including two meetings with Mr Trump, the President said his Secretary of State is "not leaving".

"The media has been speculating that I fired Rex Tillerson or that he would be leaving soon — FAKE NEWS!" Trump tweeted.

"He's not leaving and while we disagree on certain subjects, (I call the final shots) we work well together and America is highly respected again!"

The tweet was Mr Trump's strongest endorsement of his top diplomat since senior White House officials began telling reporters that a plan had been devised to push Mr Tillerson out and replace him with CIA chief Mike Pompeo.

Immediately after reports of the plan emerged, Mr Trump offered only tepid support for Mr Tillerson, noting only that he was at the White House for a previously scheduled meeting.

The half-hearted backing amid the swirl of speculation over Mr Tillerson's imminent demise had threatened to impair his effectiveness, particularly as he prepares for an official trip to Europe next week.

Mr Tillerson's aides had said the secretary was sanguine and remained comfortable in his role despite the turmoil in Mr Trump's national security team centring on him.

Aides said Mr Tillerson would continue to serve until the President asked him not to and stressed that such a request had not been made.


This happens every week here in Australia - and not just the citizenship debacle.  The media creates a storm around rumours that there is a leadership spill or call for resignation and that, in turn, creates the very thing they say is happening.  So it's not so much Fake News, as it is Make News.

But we'll just have to see if Tillerson lasts the week.

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Donald Trump sacks Secretary of State Rex Tillerson 


US President Donald Trump has unceremoniously fired Secretary of State Rex Tillerson via Twitter after a series of public rifts on foreign policy, with the top diplomat taking a swipe at Russia on his way out.

Key points:

  • CIA director Mike Pompeo will replace Tillerson
  • Pompeo is to be replaced at the CIA by the agency's first female director — his deputy Gina Haspel
  • Trump announced both changes via Twitter

The biggest shakeup of Mr Trump's Cabinet since he took office more than a year ago comes as the administration prepares for an unprecedented meeting with the leader of North Korea.

"We disagreed on things," said Mr Trump, who announced CIA director Mike Pompeo would be replacing Mr Tillerson.

"Really, it was a different mindset. It was a different thinking."

He mentioned differences over how to handle the Iran-nuclear deal, which Mr Trump wanted to withdraw from.

Mr Tillerson also took the opportunity to highlight differences, saying not enough was being done on Russia.

"Much work remains to respond to the troubling behaviour and actions on the part of the Russian Government," he said.

"Russia must assess carefully as to how its actions are in the best interest of the Russian people and of the world more broadly, continuing on their current trajectory is likely to lead to greater isolation on their part."

Though Mr Trump and other officials said he'd been considering replacing the former Exxon Mobile Corp chief executive officer for some time, the President said he made the decision only recently and "by myself".

Mr Tillerson will be "much happier now", Mr Trump said.

The White House also sacked Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs Steve Goldstein on Tuesday after he contradicted the official account of how Mr Tillerson was notified of his termination.

Mr Goldstein, who had been in his position for only three months, issued a statement saying Mr Tillerson had not spoken with Mr Trump and was "unaware of the reason" for his dismissal.

He also told reporters Mr Tillerson had learned of Mr Trump's decision via the President's tweet.

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Rex Tillerson's sacking followed months of conflict with Donald Trump over key issues


He was the reluctant employee from the beginning. The story goes the Exxon Oil chief was nearing retirement and looking forward to some well-earned 'me' time.

So when the offer to be secretary of state came he was inclined to say, "Thanks but no thanks". It was his wife, we're told, who insisted he should do it, for the country.

Almost from day one it was clear this was not a match made in heaven.

The President and Secretary of State had very different world views.

Like Donald Trump, Rex Tillerson was a wealthy businessman and a consummate deal maker.

But he did not have the impulsive gut-led instincts his boss does and that led to disagreements and humiliations.

Mr Tillerson was a facilitator, a persuader, not a disruptor.

The differences in substance and style were defined almost from the very start of the administration.

When Mr Trump ordered the US out of the Paris Climate Agreement, Mr Tillerson thought it was a mistake, and said so.

The two men were split on the key issue of Iran's nuclear agreement, with Mr Trump describing it as one of the worst deals he'd ever seen.

At the same time, Mr Tillerson had been urging his President to ratify the deal.

The now-sacked Secretary of State had asked Mr Trump to calm fears among NATO allies that he would reaffirm the principle of common defence, something the President refused to do.

And on North Korea, the two men were constantly contradicting one another.

When Donald Trump tweeted there could be no deals with North Korea last year, Mr Tillerson said negotiations were always an option.

And when just last week it was revealed the President would meet with Kim Jong-un, he not only didn't consult with his chief diplomat, he didn't even tell him he was going to do it.

And that came a day after Mr Tillerson had said there was little chance of talks between the two leaders.

But perhaps Mr Tillerson's greatest sin was his reported description of Mr Trump at a private gathering as a 'moron'.

That was never going to please a man who describes himself as a 'genius'.

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