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Is ISIS defeated?   Africa and the Middle East

Started 11/10/17 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 53314 views.
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)


There have been a lot of victories in the last year with many strongholds and bases cleared of IS fighters.

Cities have been liberated and ISIS driven out , imprisoned or killed.

But now what?

We know all it takes to create more terror is a pissed off teenager with internet access.

So who shuts down the websites and magazines?

Who watches out for a new cell emerging from the rubble?

And are the Taliban just biding their time til the Allied forces leave?

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Jenifer (Zarknorph)

From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)


Iraq war: Survivors struggle with trauma, still fear for their safety even after IS defeat

At the height of the recent battle for Mosul, Ahmed and his family found themselves on the front line between Iraqi forces and Islamic State (IS) militants. As they tried to escape, a bomb exploded next to them.

Ahmed was pulled alive from the rubble with his only surviving son. But his wife and four other children were killed.

It was months before Ahmed and his son made it to the Khazer refugee camp in northern Iraq. And three more months before he sat down with a counsellor — in the form of Greg Keane, an Australian psychiatrist with the aid agency, Medicins Sans Frontieres (MSF).

The struggle just to survive had consumed Ahmed's days. But he was clearly still suffering from trauma and grief.

"He came into the consultation room with his son. Normally I would ask someone to leave their child outside," Mr Keane says.

"But once I heard the story — as well as being overwhelmed myself and having to contain my feelings — I had to make a decision. I didn't want to separate him from his son.

"He was clearly doing the best he could for his son, and trying to find meaning in his life. Having to make decisions about what he did each day.

"So in that first consultation we focused just on the here and now: what do I do to get up in the morning? What supports can I find in the camp? What sort of social connections can I start developing?"

Ahmed's story is all too common among the thousands who have fled the wars to recapture Mosul in Iraq, and more recently Raqqa in Syria.

The daily effort to find food, work, medical care, and even schooling — while the fighting continues — means that deep-seated trauma and mental health issues are pushed aside.

Only when refugees reach the safety of a camp do many have time to reflect on the violence, death and loss they have experienced.

Yet the psychological and emotional scars of war are immense.


From: RGoss99


Isis, or its successors, will never be defeated until the West assumes responsibility for their actions that caused its existance, and stops involving itself in other countries lives, to benefit themselves .

Jenifer (Zarknorph)

From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)



It's a complicated mess alright.

The allied forces are creating terrorists as they're killing them.


From: RGoss99


Smart bombs do not discriminate, so "colateral damage" is creating a lot of enemies, out of people, who though unhappy under Saddam, were by and large, not individually as worse off, as they are now with U.S. caused chaos, innocent death, and mistreatment.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)

From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)



Kill a little boy's father, create a pissed off fundamentalist.

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)


Islamic State loses last occupied town as Iraqi forces capture Rawa, military says


Iraqi forces say they have captured the border town of Rawa — the last remaining town under control of the Islamic State (IS) militant group — signalling the complete defeat of the group's self-proclaimed caliphate.

The capture of the town marks the end of IS's era of territorial rule over a so-called caliphate that it proclaimed in 2014 across vast swathes of Iraq and Syria.

Iraqi forces "liberated Rawa entirely, and raised the Iraqi flag over its buildings" Lieutenant General Abdul Ameer Rasheed Yarallah said in a statement from the Joint Operations Command.

Rawa borders Syria, whose army declared victory over the militants on November 9, after seizing the last substantial town on the border with Iraq.

"With the liberation of Rawa we can say all the areas in which Daesh is present have been liberated," a military spokesman said, referring to IS by an Arabic acronym.

Iraqi forces will now focus on routing militants who fled into the desert and exert control over Iraq's borders, he said.

Iraq Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi congratulated his forces on retaking Rawa, saying in a statement that Iraqi forces liberated the town in record time and were continuing operations to retake control of Iraq's western desert and the border area with Syria.

Iraq's Defence Ministry said the assault on the town began at dawn and was complete within hours.

Despite IS' significant territorial losses, the group's media arm remains intact, allowing it to still recruit supporters and inspire new attacks.

Iraqi and American officials say IS militants are expected to continue carrying out insurgent-style attacks in Syria, Iraq and beyond.

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)


Islamic State routed from Iraq after government forces retake areas along Syrian border

Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi says Iraqi forces have driven the last remnants of Islamic State from the country, three years after the militant group captured about a third of Iraq's territory.

Key points:

  • Iraq has ended the war against Islamic State after it captured a third of Iraq's territory three years ago
  • Last month Iraqi forces captured the last remaining town under Islamic State control
  • Iraq's Prime Minister says Islamic State was defeated through the unity of the nation

The Iraqi forces recaptured the last areas still under IS control along the border with Syria, state television quoted Mr Abadi as telling an Arab media conference in Baghdad.

Several squadrons of Iraqi helicopters flew over Baghdad carrying Iraqi flags at noon, in an apparent rehearsal for a victory parade that Iraq is planning to hold in the coming days.

Members of Iraqi forces make a "V" sign as they arrive to take part in a victory celebration.,-pm-says/9243664


So who takes over next?


From: bml00


Terrorists are like mushrooms, you cut their heads off and they grow somewhere else. BM

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Jenifer (Zarknorph)

From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)


Hi BM!

Welcome! Welcome! Welcome! 

There is one thing that always bothers me about the whole mess.

When terrorists attack the west we reply with a rallying cry "You will not win!"  "You will not change our way of life!"  

I do it, too.

But if terrorists with bombs will not sway us, then surely allied forces with bombs will not sway them.

I guess the plan is to wipe everyone out so there is no one left to attack anyone.

Until the next generation...