Coalition of the Confused

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Time to go, Jules   Australia and Oceania

Started 1/11/18 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 8968 views.

From: bml00


His actions were deplorable and more than likely cost the lives of US/UK agents . He is a traitor , any defence of him is merely time wasting.



From: BerrySteph


bml00 said:

His actions were deplorable and more than likely cost the lives of US/UK agents

Assange did his best to release the information responsibly - and had top media sources helping him do so.

Those journals were threatened and withdrew cooperation.

If any sources were endangered (and there is suspiciously little evidence of it) then its our own reckless behaviour that has done this.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)


From: BerrySteph


We're determined to punish a journalist - hand him over to people who kidnap and torture and lock people away for ever.

Guardian and New York Times were very pleased to recognise him as a journalist - and he's recieved many awards from other journalists.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)


But journalists, like politicians, need to be held accountable for any behaviour that threatens people's lives.


From: BerrySteph


Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

But journalists, like politicians, need to be held accountable for any behaviour that threatens people's lives.

The Guardian and the New York Times hailed Assange as a journalist (and he's just received another minor award for it, I think).

Why have they changed their mind? (In the case of the Guardian it may be the visit from Special Branch).

Those papers cooperated closely with Assange trying to release the information carefully (and seem to have succeeded in making it work) - it was the US that refused cooperation.

Is it one informant in Pakistan is alleged to have been forced to move? Clearly, very little harm was done - far less than the malicious but un-prosecuted exposure of Valerie Plame by Cheney!

Jenifer (Zarknorph)

Journalists cannot cry that no one is above the law, then hide from it.

And what if Julian Assange actually raped someone?

We've all formed our opinion, but a trial would be better.


From: BerrySteph


Jenifer (Zarknorph) said: And what if Julian Assange actually raped someone?

Its an outrageous fabrication, what in Russian they call Kompromat.

As would be very obvious if you thought about it.

It might be the sexual revenge that Victim 1 planned and put on her blog ... except its not.

The chief accuser, supposedly a huge fan of Wikileaks and Assange in particular, is, according to this British diplomat (sacked for whistle-blowing and charged with sexual crimes, as several others) is this woman:

Sept 2012 ... Anna Ardin named herself. She has given a number of interviews to the media under her own name accusing Julian Assange ... at least 30 media interviews that she has given where she is reported as Anna Ardin making these accusations. Now the idea — and saying that she does not work for the CIA. It was interesting that she feels the need to say that. Most of us don’t go around denying we work for the CIA. And also saying that, you know, Assange is a misogynist and a rapist and goodness knows what else.

The idea that you should be able to make such accusations to the media ... and nobody should be allowed to reply to you and nobody should be allowed to use your name, even though you put it yourself in the newspapers, is sort of Kafkaesque ... been named in the mainstream media of every single major country I can find except for the UK

... a character with a very, very interesting history and very, very interesting ties, political ties, which don’t relate only to the Social Democrat Party in Sweden ... a history that relates to work with CIA-funded agencies in Miami and Cuba and Buenos Aries. ... she has an interesting and varied history of working in causes which, let’s say where there’s a mutual area of interest in South America with the CIA.

Now consider the actual facts of the case, which are trivial in the extreme - the alleged attack on Anna Ardin was on Friday 13th Aug 2010:

On Saturday 14 August at 14:00 she wrote the following on her Twitter account. 'Julian wants to go to a crayfish party, anyone have a couple of available seats tonight or tomorrow? #fb' Early on the morning of Sunday 15 August (02:00) she writes again at Twitter. 'Sitting outdoors at 02:00 and hardly freezing with the world's coolest smartest people, it's amazing! #fb'

When Anna Ardin files a police complaint against Julian Assange on 20 August these tweets are removed. Why? As far as I can tell, it's not common for victims of crime to delete blogs, clean up their cellphones, and try to get witnesses to attest to things that aren't true. Why is it so important to remove these particular tweets? ... You can't divine in the tweets that Anna Ardin thinks Julian has a 'warped view of womanhood and can't take no for an answer'.

... Julian lives in Anna Ardin's flat from 11 August until 19-20 August. During this time Julian and Anna have sex. Around 18-19 August Anna gets a call from a woman wanting to speak to Julian. When Anna realises that Julian's also had consensual sex with this woman, something happens.,01.shtml


In reply toRe: msg 63

From: BerrySteph



How much more do you need? This section names the second woman and explains how she was tricked into making a "complaint" that she had no intention of bringing:

2nd Dec 2010 ... Anna Ardin and Sofia Wilén approached the Klara police station in Stockholm on the afternoon of Friday 20 August 2010 to ask questions of the police, purportedly about forcing someone to submit to STD/HIV tests.

The policemen on duty rang up prosecutor on duty Maria Kjellstrand even before the formal interrogation had begun. Kjellstrand - working with no paperwork at all at this point - issued an 'APB' for Assange and had the police search the Stureplan district of Stockholm for Assange, ostensibly to bring him in for questioning (and a tour of Swedish isolation cells).

The formal interrogation of Sofia Wilén was only concluded hours later and the interrogation of Anna Ardin didn't take place until the day after - by telephone.

As seen from Anna Ardin's SMS history, Anna Ardin and Sofia Wilén made the whole thing up - and even decided to leak the story to notorious Swedish tabloid Expressen. The story reached Niklas Svensson and others at Expressen at 19:52.

A colleague of Svensson's rang up Maria Kjellstrand to find out if the story was true - and Kjellstrand, violating the rules of her office, told the reporter that it was.

All of which closely follows Anna Ardin's notorious 'seven step plan for revenge' and is based directly on it.

A lot of the above has been inferred by pundits and researchers but it is only now that people finally learn the truth.,01.shtml

This account is less factual than the above, something of a rant, but has useful additional details:

Swedish bloggers uncovered the full story in a few hours. The complaint was lodged by a radical feminist Anna Ardin, 30, a one-time intern in the Swedish Foreign Service and a minor political activist. She had invited Julian Assange to a crayfish party, and they had enjoyed some quality time together. When Ardin discovered that Julian shared a similar experience with a 20-year-old woman a day or two later, she obtained the younger woman's cooperation in declaring before the police that changing partners in so rapid a manner constituted a sort of chemical attack. The prosecutor immediately issued an arrest warrant, and the press was duly notified. Once the facts were examined in the cold light of day, the charge of rape seemed ludicrous and was immediately dropped. In the meantime the younger woman, perhaps realizing how she had been used, withdrew her report, leaving the vengeful Anna Ardin standing alone.

... before we absolve the Swedish police as unwitting, if zealous, dupes, please note that Swedish law strictly forbids police and prosecutors to release to the media the details of any rape-connected complaint. The Expressen had all the details of the case, including the names of the accused and the complainant, within a matter of minutes.

... Were the criminal reporters of the Expressen that good, or is it possible that Ms. Ardin willingly collaborated with the Expressen in targeting our plucky Neo? Swedish bloggers note that she consorted with many Americans while working at the Swedish embassy in Buenos Aires. She has been deported from Cuba for suspicious activity.

... Openly feminist and politically connected ... written and published on her blog a "revenge instruction" ... involved in Gender Studies in Uppsala University ... in charge of gender equality in the Students' Union, a junior inquisitor of sorts.

In other words, she was perfect for the job. So was Sweden. In order to frame Julian in Singapore, they would have to fit him up with drugs. To frame Julian in England, they might have to report he had skinned and roasted cats. To hang a frame on Julian in Sweden only required reporting sex between consenting adults.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)

From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)