Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

The Australian student released last week after being detained in North Korea bats away Pyongyang's claims he admitted to spying acts in the hermit kingdom.

North Korea operates a system little different from the one we operated in WW2.

Any attempt at unofficial negotiations will be silenced.

This is "Friendly Fire, the Secret War between the Allies" 2005 Lynn Picknett, Clive Prince, Stephen Prior with additional research by Robert Brydon (d. 2003).

p.26 ... in May 1941 [when Hess parachuted into Scotland, 8 miles from the people expecting him] the pre-war 'peace group' was trying to force matters to a head 

... The more extreme pro-peace element behind the British end of the Hess plan appears to have been in disarray ... how did Churchill manage this incredible turnaround? 

There was the threat of Regulation 18b, the draconian wartime law that allowed the detention without trial of anyone deemed by the government - meaning Churchill - to be a threat to the war effort. Within weeks of Churchill coming to power, the British Fascist leader Sir Oswald Mosley and 149 others were imprisoned under 18b for the duration. Such action could be taken against anyone found to 'have or have had associations with any persons concerned in the government of ... any Power with which his Majesty is at war'.16 No wonder those who had actively conspired with the Deputy Fuhrer were quaking in their shoes.

... Very few of that coalition of vested interests were actively sympathetic to Nazism or Fascism, simply believing it was in Britain's interests and - a factor largely forgotten today - those of its Empire, to reach a compromise with Hitler, and that Churchill's obsession with fighting on to certain victory or defeat was condemned to disaster. To them, Russia was the greater threat.... many had advocated staying out of any war altogether and forcing Germany and the USSR into conflict ... the position of the Duke of Kent, Chamberlain - and MI6's Sir Stewart Menzies. 

PS - the North operates this for obvious reasons - any successful attempt to bypass the leadership will result in the entire government facing terrible consequences (totally different from Churchill, who only needed to be pushed aside).

The South operates the same, only needing to make sure that any money spent on re-unification projects is wasted and shut down by government and stolen - eg the Kaesong Industrial Park.

Hess / Halifax PLAY NO PART IN THIS DEBATE you worry that you can buy from Poundland a crown for Emperor KJU - you bleeding idiot

BM

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Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

North Korea fires at least two unidentified projectiles from the country's east coast, South Korea's military says.

So the US can travel 5000 miles with their weapons and threaten North Korea with annihilation, but North Korea may not even test its own weaponry off its own coast?

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

I have no idea why you think any of these five things are necessary.

I guess I always knew you didn't understand the purpose or function of a monarchy.

Loosely defined thus:

1) Know more people in the country than anyone else 2) Travel constantly for that purpose 3) Give up the right to express any personal political opinions whatsoever 4) Oversee the orderly handover of power from one elected leader to the next. 5) Only marry any (future) woman that all Koreans can approve

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Actually that depends.  What if you just took out KJU? The truly brainwashed would want vengeance, obviously, but he is overweight and could simply die of a heart attack... His children are too young to take over, so that would depend on the generals.  Would they keep their power, or do what is best for their people? It would all depend on the character of the man left in charge.

Or maybe you think that murder of your opponents is good diplomacy.

It might be - but it clearly has terrible results when you decapitate a regime!

Vast chaos and suffering and, especially in recent years, we've been unable to impose any acceptable (to us) puppet leader as dictator.

Is that not what we've proved again from 18 years of smashing Afghanistan?

Have we learned nothing atall?

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Sweden has a unique relationship with North Korea and is relied on by Western countries for help when they have problems with the hermit kingdom.

So why does Australia not deal with Korea as a sovereign nation, fully entitled to lock up foreigners suspected of spying?

And note that Korea has cooperated with such international pressure.

No such luck for Australians locked up here for journalism - you abandon them!

The removal of KYU would open the door for the people to decide where they want to be in terms of unification , this regime like all tyranical dictatorships is solely centred upon the whims and notions of one man , remove him and the people will speak with no fear , it is unlikely the Army will step in as they will be rudderless as well and if the assasination took place at a time of great famine then even better as the Army is unlikely to fall upon its own people .

The Murder of JULIUS by Brutus and his associates is a prime example , prior to the murder they discussed what would be the results of their actions and they came to two conclusions - the people and the army would call for their arrest or the people and the army would raise them high as saviours , after the death of Julius when the Senate met the 3rd but unthought of event actually took place , nothing happened at all as nobody knew what to do ............

This would eventually see the rise of Augustus but this was to fill the void

BM