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Bubonic plague   World Wide WTF?

Started 6/11/19 by Johneeo; 6437 views.
Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

7/19/20

Why would Chicago waste police and resources to protect the statue of a mass murdering idiot?

Especially given that he NEVER set foot in America, let alone "discovered it".

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

7/19/20

A meme in lieu of a coherent argument.

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Johneeo

From: Johneeo

7/19/20

>>>>
Why would Chicago waste police and resources to protect the statue of a mass murdering idiot?
<<<<

Maybe to enforce law and order?  Or common decency?  Civility? 

It kind of works like this.  You allow violent mobs to destroy property, you have lost total control.
So, if it is OK to destroy statues at will, it would be just fine to burn down churches.  You know,
those Christian establishments that fed people to the lions, initiated the wholly wars, and most
recently sexually assaulted children?

And, as we have seen, when the city is burning, the criminals loot. 

And they attack police.

And we have just about achieved the goal of total anarchy.

And when that happens, historically, those with the guns usually win.
And a lot of people will need to die.
 

  • Edited July 19, 2020 7:36 am  by  Johneeo
Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

7/20/20

First of all, the tally of police killing civilians is still WAY ahead of the reverse.

Johneeo said:

Maybe to enforce law and order? Or common decency? Civility?

Columbus plundered the Caribbean, murdering tens of thousands of innocent islanders.  That is ALL he did.  Common decency and civility would be to remove the statue, so protestors don't have to take matters into their own hands.

Johneeo said:

You allow violent mobs to destroy property, you have lost total control.

That's a given.  But when you have no control over your own life, and can be shot in a moments notice just because of the colour of your skin, maybe you're sick and tired of having to walk past a statue every day that reminds you that you are less than human.

And if setting fire to a building finally gets the attention of the nation, and the world - then burn, baby, burn.

Johneeo said:

So, if it is OK to destroy statues at will, it would be just fine to burn down churches. You know, those Christian establishments that fed people to the lions, initiated the wholly wars, and most recently sexually assaulted children?

Again, straw man argument.  This is apples and oranges. 

If 200 deaf men want to set fire to a church in Milwaukee - they've earned that right.  No one gave a shit about them when they were seeking justice quietly.

Johneeo said:

And, as we have seen, when the city is burning, the criminals loot.

IS your city burning right now?  Are criminals looting as we speak?  How many cities in the US are LITERALLY burning and being looted RIGHT NOW?  US service workers are planning a walk out on July 20.  Let's see what they set on fire and rob, shall we?

Johneeo said:

And they attack police.

Not as much as the police attack them.

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Johneeo said:

And when that happens, historically, those with the guns usually win. And a lot of people will need to die.

You're forgetting - 46% of the world's guns are in American hands.

A LOT of people are going to die.  You're hurtling towards another civil war.

And there are more guns in the US than people.

And there are people like you - on BOTH SIDES - who would rather just shoot someone who votes differently than debate with them.

SquaddyB

From: SquaddyB

7/22/20

How is this for "poetic justice"?

The lily livered mayor of Chicago, in a press release on Monday, stated: I will not allow Federal's into Chicago to terrorize our residents.

On Tuesday, 14 people were shot when gang members and "mourners" had a shoot out at a funeral home.  The so called mourners shot back.  Witnesses stated; there was bodies all over the place, it was as if I was looking at a war zone!

It seems like the residents are, in fact, terrorizing themselves! 

The Chicago police union leader/Fraternal Order of Police president, sent a letter to Mr. Trump, asking for federal troops/LEO's to deal with the protesters, so they can get on with dealing with the above crimes. 

SquaddyB

From: SquaddyB

7/22/20

>>Why would Chicago waste police and resources to protect the statue of a mass murdering idiot?<<

?What are you saying Jen?  That the police should simply stand by and ignore crimes as they are being committed in front of them?

How about this very SIMPLE solution? 

The protestors go through official channels and request that the city remove the statue and lay out the reasons why? The city could then relocate it a museum or a strong Italian - American enclave.  I am sure the lily livered liberal politician, we call a "mayor", will oblige.  Taking matters into their own hands and causing criminal damage to public property is not the solution.  I am, in fact, kind of shocked that, being the intelligent person that you come off as being, would encourage criminal activity and not support law enforcement!

Johneeo

From: Johneeo

7/22/20

>>>>>
?What are you saying Jen?  That the police should simply stand by and ignore crimes as they are being committed in front of them?
<<<<<

This is why I limit my discussions with liberals.  Simply put, they are Deranged Lunatics with no common sense or
grasp on reality.

Take a look at what is going on in Portland.  Every night for over a month, violent criminals have been destroying the city.
Horrible.  This includes a Federal Court House, and it is the DUTY of our Federal Government to protect it.
So, how does the Mayor (and every other Democrat) react?  Protecting civilians, property, and human rights is simply not
allowed.  And think about it.  A Federal Court House.  Where we have hearings and trials.  Where justice is served.

I could go on forever.  Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, Seattle, St. Louis.  All uncivilized hellholes where Democrat leaders protect
criminals and put innocent law abiding people in jail for simply protecting themselves.

And they won't stop until the entire country is turned into uncivilized anarchist hellholes ruled by the criminals ....... just like our
major cities.


 

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

7/23/20

SQUADDYB said:

The Chicago police union leader/Fraternal Order of Police president, sent a letter to Mr. Trump, asking for federal troops/LEO's to deal with the protesters, so they can get on with dealing with the above crimes.

In other words, you agree with outsourcing the situations that the police are not qualified to handle.

This is LITERALLY the core principle of the Defund The Police movement.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

7/23/20

I'm going to show you an image that you have seen before.

Do you regard the people pulling down this statue as criminals and terrorists?

The Guy Who Toppled Saddam Hussein's Statue Wishes He Hadn't | Time

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

7/23/20

I would love it if the police could devote their time to solving violent crimes.

So many murders, rapes, armed robberies and violent assaults go unsolved because 96% of their workload can be handled by someone else.

How Police Spend Their Time

Let mental health specialists deal with the mentally ill.

Let affordable public housing and food banks deal with the homeless.

Let drug rehab centres deal with the drug addicts.

Let social services and refuge centres deal with domestic abuse.

And on and on...

"Defund The Police" is an unnecessarily confusing slogan that creates too much confusion.

Please do not assume that those in favour of it do so because they hate the police and want them abolished.

DTP wants to remove the MASSIVE extra workload dumped on the police and section it off to more qualified people.

Basically, any situation that does NOT require someone to show up with a gun should be given to someone better suited to solve the problem.

This will result in the police budget getting cut, because they won't need as much money to do the 4% of the work we want them doing.

And then, perhaps a lot more cases of violent crime will be solved and the real criminals put in jail where they belong.


As for agreeing for more military in the streets, you are supporting fascism.

Must be why you hate ANTIFA so much.

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