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Started Jun-22 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 7181 views.

Right wing Americans of influence are partly responsible for this crap

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

Oct-24

With a healthy dose of fear and ignorance.

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Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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Could you go to this link and either confirm or deny whether or not Judaism has a tolerant attitude to gay marriage please?

http://forums.delphiforums.com/bully/messages/?msg=190123.78

bml00

From: bml00

Nov-2

Interesting question , Judaism is like a stout oak tree with many branches , the root of Judaism the Hasidic / Ultra Orthodox reject Homosexuality but I guess they must recognize its existence ( though I have never heard any of them say as such ) as to the other branches of course they recognize the LGB etc and their rights

The army does not differentiate it advises gay people merely to act with tact and caution and across the Israeli society it is an accepted I would almost say non existent topic 

You will still love your kids no matter their preference 

BM

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

Nov-2

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Could you go to this link and either confirm or deny whether or not Judaism has a tolerant attitude to gay marriage please?

I'd say it was a religion like any other.

Its very divided over its support of Israel - but has bludgeoned many Jewish critics into silence over it.

Even the "True Torah Jews" of Brooklyn, the only semi-intact religious European group to partially survive and reach the west, have been partly muzzled.

Their "JewsNotZionists" web-site has been forced to take down many of the things it used to publish - including the things that Ken Livingstone (the "other" two term Mayor of London and also quite popular and a serious advisor to Corbyn) said and lead to him being drummed out of the Labour Party.

bml00

From: bml00

Nov-2

There is  NO SUCH THING as True Torah Jews because any Jew who is faithful and is following the Torah and its laws is a true Torah Jew , NO JEW NO MATTER HOW PIOUS has the right in the JEWISH religion to make claims to being better than any other Jew that is why even the most SECULAR Jew who when he is buried as a Jew will be as Jewish in Death as in Birth and the only Judge to his spirit and righteousness will be the Almighty

The titles these groups assume in their pitiful efforts to portray their cause as better than others does not and will not make them better (or worse Jews) than any others

Finally elements of the TTJ now reside in Israel even though they demonstrate against it , elements of every single anti ZIONIST group no matter how vehement they are in their religious reasons for rejecting Israel are to be found here in Israel (enjoying of course all the handouts they can get)

BM

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BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

Nov-2

bml00 said:

The titles these groups assume in their pitiful efforts to portray their cause as better than others does not and will not make them better (or worse Jews) than any others

Yeah, go on BM. 

Your buddy called them "fruitcakes, dangerous fruitcakes".

These are the only semi-intact religious community to escape the charnel house that was the Holocaust in Eastern Europe.

What on earth could they possibly know about their faith?

bml00

From: bml00

Nov-2

To be a Jew requires a Jewish Mother , from the moment of conception till death you will be a Jew , if you have converted to Judaism in the correct accepted manner the same applies 

If you spend your life in prayer and hope or on the battlefield or on the beach you will remain equal in Judaism , your differences will be many and varied but you are all the same 

We are an interesting diverse argumentative fractious people but we all share an invisible thread which goes back through time and will go deep into the future , we are all the each one of us The People of Israel

BM

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Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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Can gay people marry in Israel?

bml00

From: bml00

Nov-3

You cannot get married in Israel with same sex marriages but the marriage will be legally recognised once it is registered , the marriage has to take place in a state/country where same sex marriages are legal, Israel is Jewish , Druze, Muslim many different Christian factions etc

The religious are not liberal (no matter the faith) here in Israel and if as we have had an hard right wing Government which has aligned itself with the Religious (for its own political machinations) then any liberalization is very difficult , the possibility of a new Government totally secular is now taking shape which would liberalize such relationships as it would not require its coalition partners to recognise the move as the Government will be essentially centrist

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