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Started 7/17/19 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 34968 views.
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3/27/20

Analysis


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3/27/20

Umm, nosotros los Boricuas decimos "Que se vayan al Carajo!"

We have another expletive but later...

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4/1/20

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4/5/20

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4/5/20

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From: RGoss99

4/5/20

Since you considered this news worth a post, as I do, how do you feel about this. Do you support the Captain or the person who had him fired, if so the reasons for your opinión. 

Starting off a valid discussion. I think the firing was stupid, even though it might be considered contrary to some government policy. I say that because in a democracy, unless there is a Good reason, the government should be open with information to its citizens. Obviously this capitan felt that being open with a problem not just on his ship, relating to crew and families, but also America at large would be a positive thing. And, true or not, those who would crush free speech often have something to hide.

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From: Di (amina046)

4/6/20

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

4/6/20

I believe he had the best intentions, but he did not handle the situation as well as he should have.

Although, military don't tend to "panic", as far as I know.

I'm not sure exactly who he was accused of scaring the living daylights out of.

What mattered most was the safety of the men under his command, and that has to be respected.

These are also extenuating circumstances, and 20/20 hindsight from generals nowhere near the actual situation, and no experience dealing with this, should be taken with a grain of salt.

Did this captain have a set of protocols to follow?  Have captains been trained in exercises that deal with this exact situation?

He saw that his men could die, and did whatever he could to save them.

The opposite result of this is a captain on the verge of being charged with negligent homicide.

RGoss99

From: RGoss99

4/6/20

You are missing another aspect of this, Yes, he did write the letter, but he properly sent it up through channels, but somewhere between him sending it and where it was recieved, it was leaked and became subject. So to me the guilty party is the one who leaked the message, not the message, which we would not know of had it not been leaked. I have seen no evidence that the Captain violated approved channels, important to be kept secret so those up the food chain can take proper action. By "punishing" this capitan, there is a message, if you have such thoughts and ideas, keep them to yourself and do not pass them up the line.

BerrySteph

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4/6/20

RGoss99 said:

You are missing another aspect of this, Yes, he did write the letter, but he properly sent it up through channels, but somewhere between him sending it and where it was recieved, it was leaked and became subject. So to me the guilty party is the one who leaked the message, not the message, which we would not know of had it not been leaked. I have seen no evidence that the Captain violated approved channels, important to be kept secret so those up the food chain can take proper action. By "punishing" this capitan, there is a message, if you have such thoughts and ideas, keep them to yourself and do not pass them up the line.

Bloody obvious really - there is no way he'd have wanted such a complaint be made public and (as is increasingly happening) it was sort-of whistle-blown by another (malicious? or genuinely worried?)

Just another case of the victim of (possible) malice being punished while the perpetrator of (likely) malice gets off.

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