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Started 7/17/19 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 79091 views.
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Apr-13

The young man black man had an outstanding warrant, for which he was being arrested.  He resisted arrest.  IF true, the officer tried to use non-lethal force to get him back in the car.  IF true, it's a tragedy for both the young man's family and the police officer.  It would have all been avoided if the young man had complied with police instructions. 

In another instance, a black uniformed military officer was pepper-sprayed and pulled from his car by police after refusing to get out of his car when he was pulled over by highway patrol.  They didn't see his paper plates, it was a new car.  If he had just exited his car, as requested, they would have apologized and sent him on his way, which is what happened at the end.  WHY didn't he just get out of his car as requested in the first place.

We have the right to know why we're being stopped or arrested, but do we have the right to resist?  What happens to a society if we can just say F-off and go on our merry way?  There's so many questions about the role of police and the rights of citizens in a law-abiding society.

In the same situations, if the men had been white, would the outcomes have been the same?  Don't know, but from experience, I can tell you if police tell me to get out of the car, or to shut up, I do it.

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Apr-14

Really?  You pick a video of a gun-toting, pickup truck driving redneck who probably does his own share of roughing up black people and NEVER complies, to make your point?  What is his source?  Obviously not from research.  I just wasted 2+ minutes of my life listening to this trash.  He's probably part of some apocalyptic militia hiding out in the woods with his deranged buddies salivating over the idea of no police, or even better, dead police.

This is just one example of why cops are anxious today:  https://nypost.com/2021/04/11/new-mexico-cop-darrian-jarrotts-shooting-death-during-traffic-stop-video/

I'll answer your question with one of my own:  What, in your opinion, is the sane response to being questioned, detained or arrested for something you say you didn't do?  

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Apr-16

I take it you're not a fan of the Liberal Redneck.  That's OK.  Humour is subjective.  However, I was sure you're the one who introduced me to these guys.  I must have been mistaken.

katiek2 said:

What, in your opinion, is the sane response to being questioned, detained or arrested for something you say you didn't do?

I don't understand the point of the question.  Are you saying the army officer who was pepper-sprayed and threatened did something wrong?  Was his reaction insane?  He calmly put his hands outside the car, complied with their demands, got a face full of pepper-spray, and when he truthfully said he was afraid to get out of he car the officer's reply was "Yeah, you should be!!"

How is this acceptable behaviour from the police?

Why should ANY citizen feel the desperate need to get to a well lit area with plenty of witnesses when being pulled over for a standard traffic violation?

Why should ANY citizen genuinely fear they are about to die at the sight of police lights?

They comply, they're assaulted.  They don't comply, they're killed. 

Just do what he asked and admit you don't care.

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