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BoJo the Boofhead   The U.K and Europe

Started Sep-19 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 2593 views.
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

Oct-25

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

Oct-25

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Prime Minister Boris Johnson calls for a general election on December 12 to break Britain's Brexit impasse, conceding for the first time he will not meet his deadline to leave the EU.

Whew.

However, in line with a move to more consensual politics, the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011, forbids minority governments (such as BoJo has created for himself!!!!) from calling a General Election at a time of their convenience.

He's now trying to barter over it, insisting Labour supports him over Brexit.

As best I can see, BoJo's Brexit deal is terrible and will certainly hive off Northern Ireland and possibly drive Scotland away.

However, something new has happened - it appears that thousands of Chinese immigrants are getting into the UK - and Irish people, maybe Ireland and the EU itself, are playing some important part in this mass-migration designed to swamp us.

Our population is rocketing towards 70 million, 80% of the increase being due to migration.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

Oct-25

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said: Prime Minister Boris Johnson calls for a general election on December 12 to break Britain's Brexit impasse, conceding for the first time he will not meet his deadline to leave the EU.

Wow ... I've just told you that thousands of illegal immigrants are coming to the UK - but this story hasn't (or had not! I could be out of touch) broken in the UK yet. Not on the BBC this morning, nor on Sky News.

Instead of which, its in your papers:

Bodies found in Essex container just 'tip of the iceberg' for multi-billion-dollar business

October 25, 2019

PHOTO: The discovery of 58 bodies in a shipping container in June 2000 shocked the United Kingdom. (Reuters: DJM)

On June 18, 2000, the truck arrived in Dover.

Key points:

  • Officials estimate there are up to 40,000 illegal entries into the UK each year
  • They are trafficked by sophisticated criminal businesses, with scouts in trouble spots around the world
  • Even if governments make changes in some ports, the people smugglers are likely to to find other routes

This week it was Purfleet.

In both cases, the sealed container left a freight port in Belgium packed with dying human cargo.

All of them were Chinese.

Nineteen years ago, just two of 60 people survived.

This time, all 39 died. They most likely froze to death.

Police in the UK and Belgium are now investigating a multinational people-smuggling operation most likely based out of Northern Ireland.

Wherever its headquarters, there's no doubt the syndicate was competing for clients.

"It's a huge business," Vernon Coaker, a British MP who sits on the parliamentary committee charged with tackling human trafficking, told the ABC.

"Some people say it's more lucrative for these criminals than the drugs trade."

While official figures put the number of potential victims in the UK at about 7,000, he said the true scale of the problem was far larger.

"It's the tip of the iceberg," Mr Coaker said.

The International Labour Organisation estimates there are currently 40.3 million victims of human trafficking.

The United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime believes just two of the principal people-smuggling routes — from Africa to Europe and South America to the north — generate almost $US7 billion ($10.26 billion) a year.

David Wood, the former head of immigration enforcement for the Home Office, told the ABC he suspects there are tens of thousands of people trafficked into the UK every year.

"Clandestine entries to the UK would probably be between 20–40,000 a year," he said.

Together with those who forge their travel papers and who deliberately overstay their visas, "it's probably 100,000-plus illegal migrants a year".

He said the syndicates behind these figures are running sophisticated businesses, with a pyramid of scouts in trouble spots across the world.

"They have agents in different countries, they have agents in China, they have agents in sub-Saharan Africa, they'd have agents in Afghanistan and the Indian subcontinent," Mr Wood said.

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

Oct-26

I've been reporting on this in the UK News thread all week.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

Oct-26

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

I've been reporting on this in the UK News thread all week.

What I first heard from you and ABC is that the UK is leaking like a sieve.

adwil

From: adwil

Oct-27

BerrySteph said:

"Clandestine entries to the UK would probably be between 20–40,000 a year," he said.

That's true. There are nearly 300,000 legal immigrants to the UK every year.

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From: BerrySteph

Oct-27

adwil said:

That's true. There are nearly 300,000 legal immigrants to the UK every year.

We must be out of our minds - the sea is about to rise and it will take out 50% of our agricultural land just in the first 5 metres.

Then there's the disruption in fuel supplies etc, making farming much more difficult.

Meanwhile, large parts of the world will be starving and the international price of food is very likely to rocket. 

We may not even get the expected (small) boost in agricultural productivity, since the Gulf Stream could change and we could get colder.

I'm very alarmed about Brexit - but pulling up the drawbridge is definitely in order.

If Boris intends that - which he probably does not.

adwil

From: adwil

Oct-27

BerrySteph said:

which he probably does not.

It ought to be harder for illegals to get in, but we'll carry on accepting legal migrants, and there won't be free movement from the EU. Our population is predicted to hit 70 million by 2030.

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From: BerrySteph

Oct-27

adwil said:

It ought to be harder for illegals to get in

What we're hearing is that it will become much easier for illegals to get in.

These 39 dead were in a convoy of three lorries, 100 people moving at a time. The traffickers must already be super-confident.

While Belgium is not going to be tightening up on them - probably quite the opposite.

adwil said:

we'll carry on accepting legal migrants ... Our population is predicted to hit 70 million by 2030.

How can you be a "moderate Zionist", defending Israel's preference for rigidly uniform ethnicity, but wish multi-culturalism on us?

Over and over again, everything you say makes you sound anti-British.

adwil

From: adwil

Oct-27

BerrySteph said:

How can you be a "moderate Zionist", defending Israel's preference for rigidly uniform ethnicity, but wish multi-culturalism on us?

I don't have any problems with multiculturalism or other nationalities living here as long as they are loyal to the country that they've 'joinrd'..  What Israel does is Israel's choice and since Jews are all colours and ethnicities, I'm not sure what you're objecting to.. 

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