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Coronavirus   World Wide WTF?

Started 3/31/20 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 64109 views.
Jenifer (Zarknorph)

From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)


The problem is the haphazard and contradictory information.

States have different counts and case numbers for more reasons than a Democrat or Republican in charge.

Of course densely populated areas will have higher cases than rural areas. 

Everybody chooses the statistic that works for their argument.

Right now, the only statistic that matters is the amount of tests that come back positive.  But this is not uniform, as there are different numbers of tests.

Perfect example in yesterday's results for the top 5 states:

South Dakota: 50.6 percent positive

New daily cases: 526

Tests per 1,000: 2.6

Iowa: 37.4

New daily cases: 1,542

Tests per 1,000: 1.6

Kansas: 36

New daily cases: 2,082

Tests per 1,000: 1.4

Idaho: 33.4

New daily cases: 757

Tests per 1,000: 1.4

Wyoming: 30.4

New daily cases: 444

Tests per 1,000: 2.2

We don't know how many tests were done to get these results.

So Trump's call to slow down the testing could backfire badly.

You test ONE person in Alabama and they come back positive... I guess that's a 100% positive test rate.


All I have ever maintained is that the impact of covid has been greatly exaggerated to the benefit of certain very large corporations and governments, both their leaders and their bureaucracies.  

Jenifer (Zarknorph)

From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)


Who has benefited and how?

Large corporations benefit, especially any that have a fully developed online presence.  Contrarywise, small businesses remain shuttered or are struggling with limited business.

Government bureaucracies benefit because they get more funding as politicians scramble to throw money at the 'problem', which incidentally provides them for an excuse for tighter surveillance.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)

From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)


Apollonius (Theocritos) said:

Large corporations benefit, especially any that have a fully developed online presence. Contrarywise, small businesses remain shuttered or are struggling with limited business.

How is that different from any other time?

Yes, companies like Amazon and Uber greatly benefited.

Chain restaurants that could deliver benefited more than small restaurants that couldn't.

But ALL hairdressers, chains and independents, were hurt the same.

But if businesses are STILL bordered up and shut in your neighbourhood, then you need to look at who was supposed to be looking out for the health and economy of that neighbourhood and vote them out.


From: adwil


The latest research into Remdesivir, chloroquine, lopinair-ritonovair and interferon beta concludes that "none of the four drugs studied produced any measurable benefit in mortality or disease course. "

Kid (Kidmagnet)

From: Kid (Kidmagnet)


Apollonius (Theocritos) said:

The only truly important figure is the number of deaths or those left permanently disabled.

Guessing you don't work in health care. The numbers that need medical attention are the ones you need to watch.


From: adwil


Mmmm, the Pfizer vaccine is good news, especially for manufacturers of medical freezers. Any vaccine that does not need to be stored at -80C until just before use will be  preferred to Pfizer, once we have choices.

Pfizer U-turns at warp speed - Amber Athey, The Spectator, 9 November 2020

They struck a $1.95 billion deal with the Trump administration in July

Pfizer announced Monday that a coronavirus vaccine the company was working on had proven to be 90 percent effective at preventing COVID-19. It is not only great news for the country, but appeared to be a big win for the Trump administration’s Operation Warp Speed. Vice President Mike Pence praised the ‘public-private partnership’ for spurring development of the vaccine.

It turns out that Fox News’s Sean Hannity was essentially right when he said that Trump could cure cancer and the media still wouldn’t like him. Pfizer immediately distanced itself from its partnership with the Trump administration. The media quickly followed suit, determining that the President deserves no credit for the vaccine’s quick development.

Dr Kathrin Jansen, Pfizer’s head of vaccine research and development, told the New York Times, ‘We were never part of the Warp Speed…We have never taken any money from the US government, or from anyone.’

NBC News White House correspondent Geoff Bennett piled on, writing, ‘As Pence claims credit, Pfizer says it did NOT join in the administration’s partnership.’ Twitter also had an item on their ‘trending’ section headlined ‘Pfizer is not part of Operation Warp Speed, Pfizer senior vice president says.’

This is the type of statement that the left-wing fact checkers would describe as ‘technically true, but misleading’. Pfizer was the only US drug company to not accept money for research and development of the vaccine. They did, however, strike a $1.95 billion contract with the government.

The deal was that the Trump administration would give Pfizer $1.95 billion for 100 million doses of a coronavirus vaccine if it was completed by the end of the year. The New York Times  described the partnership as ‘part of what the White House calls the Warp Speed project’ in July. Pfizer also said at the time that they did not accept federal funding for research and development because they thought dealing with government contracts would slow down their progress. Declining government funds at that time was thus more strategic than principled. The company, of course, would still feel comfortable sinking its own money into development knowing that the government had agreed to purchase its product regardless of if other vaccines became available in the meantime.

Pfizer did not reply when The Spectator asked why it is now distancing itself from the partnership. The pharmaceutical giant did issue a statement clarifying that it is in fact ‘one of various vaccine manufacturers participating in Operation Warp Speed’.

See also: 

The spectacularly timed Pfizer vaccine announcement - Cockburn, The Spectator, 9 November 2020
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