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Coronavirus   World Wide WTF?

Started 3/31/20 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 69149 views.
Unusually Instant (Kidmagnet)
Apollonius (Theocritos) said:

The only truly important figure is the number of deaths or those left permanently disabled.

Guessing you don't work in health care. The numbers that need medical attention are the ones you need to watch.


From: adwil


Mmmm, the Pfizer vaccine is good news, especially for manufacturers of medical freezers. Any vaccine that does not need to be stored at -80C until just before use will be  preferred to Pfizer, once we have choices.

Pfizer U-turns at warp speed - Amber Athey, The Spectator, 9 November 2020

They struck a $1.95 billion deal with the Trump administration in July

Pfizer announced Monday that a coronavirus vaccine the company was working on had proven to be 90 percent effective at preventing COVID-19. It is not only great news for the country, but appeared to be a big win for the Trump administration’s Operation Warp Speed. Vice President Mike Pence praised the ‘public-private partnership’ for spurring development of the vaccine.

It turns out that Fox News’s Sean Hannity was essentially right when he said that Trump could cure cancer and the media still wouldn’t like him. Pfizer immediately distanced itself from its partnership with the Trump administration. The media quickly followed suit, determining that the President deserves no credit for the vaccine’s quick development.

Dr Kathrin Jansen, Pfizer’s head of vaccine research and development, told the New York Times, ‘We were never part of the Warp Speed…We have never taken any money from the US government, or from anyone.’

NBC News White House correspondent Geoff Bennett piled on, writing, ‘As Pence claims credit, Pfizer says it did NOT join in the administration’s partnership.’ Twitter also had an item on their ‘trending’ section headlined ‘Pfizer is not part of Operation Warp Speed, Pfizer senior vice president says.’

This is the type of statement that the left-wing fact checkers would describe as ‘technically true, but misleading’. Pfizer was the only US drug company to not accept money for research and development of the vaccine. They did, however, strike a $1.95 billion contract with the government.

The deal was that the Trump administration would give Pfizer $1.95 billion for 100 million doses of a coronavirus vaccine if it was completed by the end of the year. The New York Times  described the partnership as ‘part of what the White House calls the Warp Speed project’ in July. Pfizer also said at the time that they did not accept federal funding for research and development because they thought dealing with government contracts would slow down their progress. Declining government funds at that time was thus more strategic than principled. The company, of course, would still feel comfortable sinking its own money into development knowing that the government had agreed to purchase its product regardless of if other vaccines became available in the meantime.

Pfizer did not reply when The Spectator asked why it is now distancing itself from the partnership. The pharmaceutical giant did issue a statement clarifying that it is in fact ‘one of various vaccine manufacturers participating in Operation Warp Speed’.

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The spectacularly timed Pfizer vaccine announcement - Cockburn, The Spectator, 9 November 2020
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The new normal: by any means necessary - Steve Sailer, Taki's Magazine, 11 November 2020

... So, it appears that Monday’s announcement perhaps could have been made before the election. But the corporations weren’t in the mood to follow their own protocol and Trump’s FDA let them get away with stalling on telling voters and investors what had been achieved.

From a political and financial standpoint, the firms likely made the self-interested right decision to delay. Even giant pharmaceutical companies don’t want to wind up on blacklists for vengeance by Democrats. But from a scientific and ethical perspective, it was highly questionable.

Will Trump’s Securities & Exchange Commission inquire into why Pfizer did not follow its published protocol or, so far as I can tell, alert investors to its decision not to obey its announced plans? Keep in mind that a lot of people made decisions during the days when the firms had put the evidence on ice (literally)—what stocks to buy, for whom to vote, when to schedule a wedding or a family reunion—without benefit of this useful information.

The media is constantly accusing Trump of “authoritarianism,” but for a notorious authoritarian, Trump sure does get pushed around and stabbed in the back a lot, even by his own hirelings.

Trump has been a decent counterpuncher, but he’s a poor conspirator. He’s seldom been cynical enough about how low his foes would go against him. He doesn’t have the attention span to obsess enough over what his enemies are planning to do to him in the future. So he’s not often paranoid enough ahead of time about what his foes are up to. He’s just not cynical enough, expecting people to like him rather than to try to do him down.

Unfortunately, in our new normal where the ends are felt to justify the means, the time for Trumpian optimism and naivete appears to be passing.


From: adwil


Of course you have to get in with the product before your rivals do. That doesn't mean your product is better than those coming after, only that you're first. 

Jenifer (Zarknorph)

From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)


Pfizer didn't take any government money as far as I know.


From: katiek2


Oh, I don't know - 1.95 billion is a LOT of money.  I wonder how fast and hard Pfizer would have worked had that deal not been in the works.

Di (amina046)

From: Di (amina046)


They did not take that money but were assured of a great market. Pfizer is 57 on Fortune 500 and has a revenue above 50 billion.


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