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Started 5/23/20 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 6081 views.
BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

5/25/20

RGoss99 said:

where Jennifer claims the title, but still participates and invodes her power to control other speakers, this ceases to qualify as a forum, it becomes more of a pep rally for a particular point of view disguised as a forum. 

?Indeed. Forums are supposed to be in the power of a Wizop who never participates (except sometimes rambling on about something non-contentious). They give flags to Sysops, most of whom they should have met in person, and invigilates when the Sysops fall out. (As the always do).

Zarknorph is simply taking a horse and cart through the system.

RGoss99 said:

Fact: the wire tap made, to a part of the tower owned by someone independent of Trump, evidence was collected, the guy arrested, tried and convicted. Nothing to do with politics, or Obama. But because Trump´s name is on the building, the unthinking Trump supporters are left with the impression that Obama does not play far and used his office for illegal political purposes. 

?Stupid and dangerous. Any leader encouraging that kind of thing is totally unfit - in nearly all cases, they should be stamping it out.

RGoss99 said:

 Another example: Clinton brokered possibly one of the best deals between Israel and Palestine that could have solved some of the current problems. Arafat gets blamed for not going along. There is no evidence that he was against the deal, only that as the Republicans were in the process of impeaching Clinton the supporter of the deal, Arafat had no sense of security in acceptance, if Clinton fell.

You've been taken in - there was no deal on offer. The only maps we've seen are those drawn by the Palestinians showing they had to accept the West Bank being cut in three with broad swathes of the best land in between being seized by settlers. 

But the Israelis never agreed even to that map, giving them $billions worth of more land.

Arafat, a puppet of the Israelis, had given away almost everything (resources, control, airwaves) already in 1993 at Oslo - Clinton should have held a gun to the heads of the Israelis and demanded they deliver at least on those very minimum promises.

Clinton, threatened with the fate of JFK (think about it) caved completely - and months before the "negotiation" had finished the Isreaelis set about slaughtering thousands of Palestinians until there was some retaliation (almost 6 months later) where upon they started killing tens and then thousands of innocents.

RGoss99

From: RGoss99

5/25/20

As to the Arafat-Clinton comments, I would have to see some evidence. 

However what you haven´t negated is that the Clinton administrtion said they wanted a settlement, and it could have happened if Israel and Palestine did not read the Republican impeachment side show as the end of Clinton.

bml00

From: bml00

5/25/20

Rabin was Assassinated , Clinton would become embroiled in eventual sexual frivolity , Arafat continued with his terrorism and when finally at camp David the vague chance of peace was feasible Ehud Barak was at the end of his very weak tenure and was voted out of office .

Every President wants a peace agreement , the single most intractable conflict this century would be something any man or woman in office would dream of .

History however is fickle so are the Jews and the Arabs and neither side has yet picked their man or woman to lead them to peace

BM

In reply toRe: msg 20
RGoss99

From: RGoss99

5/26/20

Clinton´s sexual immaturity was irrelevant, just an excuse for the sexually frustrated Republicans to destabalize the government.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

5/26/20

I know I am guilty of losing my temper and lashing out.

But this is my little corner of cyberspace and when people come in and shit all over it for nothing more than their own amusement, I get defensive.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

5/26/20

RGoss99 said:

Your use of "ttwunts","trolls" (in ways not found in any dictionary), and treatment of Berry´s posts are exaples of abuses, and abusive of power.

A terribly crafted sentence, but I get the gist.

No Hijacking is a rule.

Berry constantly flouts it.

I have given him his own thread, where he is free to continue on his tangents with anyone who is interested.  I have even provided a link.  That is more than he deserves, considering the time it takes me to do this.

If you would prefer, I will simply go back to deleting any hijacking posts.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

5/26/20

BerrySteph said:

You've attacked RGoss (and me).

Yes I have.

I lose my temper and lash out.

I apologise.

BerrySteph said:

Doesn't mean anything the way you've applied it. Talking about the Middle East or terrorism - but demand everyone ignore the elephant in the room.

You are free to discuss the Middle East until the scared cows come home.

Just not in a thread devoted to UK culture.

Would you like to know how many threads you have derailed?

BerrySteph said:

Stating it just makes you look like a control-freak.

I am a control freak.  I freely admit it.

I am allowed to set rules at the door of my forum.

All I ask is that you respect them.

bml00

From: bml00

5/26/20

I am not sure that was correct , it was not thesex act or his defiance in describing the event it was more that he lied blatantly that was the creation of his problems

BM

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

5/26/20

RGoss99 said:

That would be a valid point if Jenifer preposted explecit rules and followed them herself and was consistant in her judgement.

I have shown you the rules a dozen times.

Here is one more, just for you.

Please be:
Thoughtful. Considerate. Colourful. Sassy. WittyIrreverent.

Please Don't be:
Abusive.  A hijacker.  A troll.  A sock.

Attack the argument, not the person.

Simple Rules

All links and Signatures welcome.  Feel free to promote your forum.

The Hostess With The Mostess May move your thread to a different folder;

but she will never censor you.

All opinions are welcome here.

However - Hijacking is not tolerated. I don't care how passionate you feel about a topic; a thread devoted to pictures of adorable kittens is not the place to start an argument about the Holocaust.

You get three warnings, then you're gagged for a week.

SPAM will be deleted on sight.  This includes "automated responses". Your macro system may be ingenious to you, but it's SPAM to everyone else.

Also, Godwin's Law applies here, and the penalty is ridicule.

In reply toRe: msg 25
RGoss99

From: RGoss99

5/26/20

The question that he was asked should not have been asked in the first place. It was a spin off from a Republican initiated imaginary sexual encounter when he was governor, nothing to do with the investigation authorized by the special counsil in the first place. Basicly everything that the Democrats are being accused of in Trump´s case, except that the Democrats are pushing a real presidential related violation.

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