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Started 1/7/21 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 40654 views.
‘We Are Armed and Nearby Your House’: Ex-Air Force Captain Who Believed Trump Won Allegedly Threatened New York Congressman’s Family
 
 
Robert Lemke’s Facebook Page featured a large image of Mark and Patricia McCloskey
 
A former U.S. Air Force Captain and retired police sergeant with the Alameda County Sheriff’s Office was arrested by federal authorities Tuesday morning for allegedly making a series of threats against the family of a New York congressman who did not support former President Donald Trump’s false claims that he was the true winner of the 2020 election.
 
According to a criminal complaint unsealed in the Southern District of New York on Tuesday, Robert Lemke, 35, sent several text messages to the unnamed east coast lawmaker’s family on Jan. 6, the same day that Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol Complex with members of Congress still inside sheltering in place.
 
“Your brother is putting your entire family at risk with his lies and other words. We are armed and nearby your house. You had better have a word with him. We are not far from his either. Already spoke to [Congressman-1’s son] and know where his kids are,” Lemke allegedly said to the congressman’s brother via text message. The messages also included a photo of a house in the same neighborhood where the congressman’s brother lived.
 
“[Y]our words have consequences. Stop telling lies; [Joe] Biden did not win, he will not be president. We are not[] white supremacists. Most of us are active/retired law enforcement or military,” he added, possibly referring to the Oath Keepers or another right-wing militia group. “You are putting your family at risk. We have armed members near your home . . . . . Don’t risk their safety with your words and lies.”
 
Lemke is also accused of sending messages to the congressman’s sister-in-law, telling her to calm her husband down and claiming that two were being spied on.
 
“We saw on the hidden camera, he was quite stirred up. You need to have him talk with [Congressman 1]. Thanks,” the message said.
 
Though Lemke did not attend the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, a catalogue of his social media posts provided in the charging document made clear that he had fully bought into the false conspiracy theory that Democrats stole the election from Trump.
 
“Folks. Be ready for war. Trump has refused to cede. Evidence shows fraud occurred and the Supreme Court cases will be successful,” he wrote in a Nov. 7 Facebook post, per the complaint. “We blockchained and watermarked ballots in 16 states. Trump will prevail.. Spread this message. . . . FAITH my fellow Republicans. Do not give up. Keep an eye out for a variety of protests, and Stop The Steal Facebook groups for updates.”
 
The charging document also noted that the background of Lemke’s Facebook page displayed a small photo of Lemke’s face partially covered by the words “Trump 2020” atop a large background photo of Mark and Patricia McCloskey, the St. Louis attorneys who were criminally charged after pointing guns at Black Lives Matter protesters outside of the last summer.
 
Lemke is also alleged to have sent threatening messages to the unnamed relative of a journalist, which said: “[The Journalist’s] words are putting you and your family at risk. We are nearby armed and ready. Thousands of us are active/retired law enforcement, military, etc. That’s how we do it.”
 
“As alleged, Robert Lemke was dissatisfied with the results of the 2020 Presidential Election and subsequent statements about the election made by a U.S. Congressman and journalist. Rather than peaceably disagree, Lemke allegedly threatened to harm those individuals’ families, demanding they retract their statements,” acting Southern District of New York U.S. Attorney Audrey Strauss said in a statement. “The electoral process is the essential mechanism through which our democracy functions. While in any election it is inevitable that some will be disappointed in the result, threats of violence cannot and will not be tolerated.”
 
Read the full complaint below:
 
 
bml00 said:

There is a witch hunt for Trump

There is no witch hunt for Trump.

That's just Confederate Nazi propoganda being pushed by foreigners who hate America and who want to see Iowans shot every time there's an election.

It's just an attempt by outside agitators to overthrow my country.

katiek2 said:

In plain speak, we're going to round up anyone we can get to that supported Trump or confesses to being a Republican. 

What have you gotten out of these conspiracy theories besides dead and wounded Iowans?

Before Trump, Iowans didn't get shot by Confederate Nazis in every presidential election.

We used to settle our elections without all this violence.

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katiek2 said:

I gave you examples of actual quotes made by democrat leaders outlining what they want to do to anyone that supported Trump.

I have completely forgotten this, sorry.

Can you recall which thread it was in? 

I will look at it again.

As for the transcript?  Oh, I read it.  What a mess of incoherent rubbish!  And it just went on and on and on...

Unfortunately the Democrats have shot themselves in the foot with their highly specific wording of the impeachment.

They SHOULD have factored in the last 6 months of his term leading up to the election where he sowed the seeds of suspicion and undermined his base's faith in getting a fair election.  He did this on a daily basis.  A tweet here, a stray sentence in a rally there, flat out refusal to accept the results on election night. December he went into overdrive.  Finally summoning his followers to a rally, promising: "Be there, will be wild!"  His actions were broad and deliberate over months and should never have been reduced to that last speech on that last day.  That speech is all they have to go on, it will be debated, the whole "peacefully" thing will come up and then the democrats will be stuck trying to prove that this base did exactly what he told them to do, which was "protest peacefully". They didn't - therefore he has no control over his base, and bears no responsibility for their actions.

Leave it to Pelosi to fuck up a slam dunk conviction!

So yeah, he used the word peacefully once.  But he used Fight or Fighting over 20 times.  Deploring weakness and calling for strength.

Before he took the podium there were warm up speeches calling for "Trial By Combat!" from Rudy, “Today is the day American patriots start taking down names and kicking ass,” from Brooks, and I don't know what Don Jr said, the internet doesn't appear to care.  This has to be factored in to determine the crowd's state of mind at the time Trump finally said his first words that day.

But this trial cannot factor in ANY of this, and will be reduced to a reading and comprehension assignment of a transcript of a chaotic stream of consciousness.

It's a mess.

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1/30/21

No, BM.

Not all people who voted for Trump are stupid and racist.

But a lot of them are.

They're proud to show it.

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1/30/21

SO You can prove that within the 75,000,000 people who voted for Trump " a lot of them are stupid" 

You dont believe your very own claim is stupid ?

BM

bml00 said:

SO You can prove that within the 75,000,000 people who voted for Trump " a lot of them are stupid"  You dont believe your very own claim is stupid ?

What is this Secret Jewish Space Laser thingie all about?

Do you know anything about them?

There's a Congresswoman who claims they start wildfires here in the US.

Did I mention that she has a gun?

bml00

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1/30/21

Dear Putz forum member

There is no such thing as a " Secret Jewish Space Laser"

Try not to be more stupid than normal , that I skip over your mails most of the time as they are utterly daft 

BM

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