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slackerx

From: slackerx

Aug-4

bml00 said:

Of course he can covert to Judaism correctly

By "correctly" he means Orthodox. Black Catholics have had similar problems with being considered as unorthodox, but it's improving. (One white catholic in the OP forum even called Black Catholicism "shit".) Aparently, similar problems exist within Judaism as well.

https://www.everyculture.com/South-America/Afro-Colombians-Religion-and-Expressive-Culture.html

Afro-Colombians - Religion and Expressive Culture
Black people in Colombia are Catholics. As among many people in Latin America, they tend to practice a "popular Catholicism" that the clergy considers more or less unorthodox. In the past and still in the 1990s, the clergy tended to disapprove of practices in Black regions, but with the emergence of a stronger Black identity, some priests are willing to include "traditional" elements in church ceremonies.
 

In the Pacific region, the presence of the church was rather weak, and many religious rites are practiced outside the direct control of the clergy. There are festivals to venerate a saint or the Virgin Mary, an image of whom is processed through a settlement and often down a river—in a town such as Quibdó, capital of the department of Chocó, the Fiestas de San Pacho (Saint Francis of Assisi) have the aspect of a carnival as different barrios compete to present the best procession and float over twelve days. Velorios, or wakes to propitiate a saint, are usually sponsored by a specific person who provides drink, tobacco, and food. There are also wakes to commemorate the death of a person. Music is a vital element in these rites, with cantadoras (female singers), who may also take role of rezanderas (prayer sayers). Aguardiente (rum) is commonly taken by the participants to combat the coldness of the deceased; beyond the immediate circle of the corpse, where respect is shown, people play dominoes, drink rum, and tell stories and jokes. At the velorio of a child (whose soul is considered to go directly to heaven, a cause for rejoicing), there may be some merriment and perhaps games that may have sexual overtones.
 
Less research has been conducted in the Caribbean coastal region but one study shows extensive similarities between this region and the Pacific coast, although perhaps greater attention is accorded to spirits than to saints. In Palenque de San Basilio, the cabildo lumbalú consists of elders who officiate at velorios with drumming, singing, and dancing to help the deceased's departure. Spirits of the deceased are called upon to aid the living and must therefore be propitiated and managed carefully through ritual means, for example during the velorio, when many precautions are taken to prevent the spirit's return or anger. Ritual specialists, often women, are accorded prestige and respect. Some observers interpret the interest shown in spirits and saints as in some measure related to African religious concerns with ancestral spirits and the propitiation of deities. It is hard to discount some African influences, but velorios and a concern with spirits and saints are also widespread in non-Black areas.
 
Work in the Cauca region has focused on elements that are in fact common in other Black (and indeed non-Black) regions: the use of magic and sorcery to attack one's enemies, bring good fortune, influence one's sexual partners, and defend oneself against the machinations of others. Sorcery is often used where envidia, envy, is rife and this in turn may be the result of perceived transgressions against norms of reciprocity, which occur when a person enjoys some material success and is thought to forget his or her obligations as a friend or relative. In this area, too, the pact made with the devil to increase a worker's output and wages has been documented. The gains achieved are fruitless, however—they cannot be usefully invested and must be spent on consumables; the worker will also gradually waste away. In the northern Cauca region, Black people also celebrate various festivals, including the Adoration of the Child.
 
There is very little information available on medical practices among Black Colombians. In general terms, as among many peoples all over Latin America, health is considered to be a balance between "hot" and "cold" forces and elements that affect the body: the cold of a corpse can be threatening, for example, and is combated by the heat of rum. Also, health and welfare are affected by the machinations of others through sorcery, and recourse can be made to healers to defend against these threats, whether to person or property. In the Pacific region, Indian shamans (called jaibanas in the department of Chocó) are considered the most powerful healers: they and their patients may use pildé, a relative of the hallucinogenic Banisteriopsis caapi vine (ayahuasca), to induce visions. In the Chocó, Black curers are called raicilleros (raicilla means "rootlet" but also refers to the ipecac root); they diagnose illness by examining urine samples. When they are given a sign that healing is their vocation, raicilleros begin a seven-year training with various teachers. Less specialized healers are called yerbateros (herbalists).
 
Music in Black regions of Colombia is varied and rich. In the department of Chocó, the chirimía band—based on clarinets, drums, and cymbals—plays versions of European-derived dances (e.g., mazurka, polka); there are also alabaos (religious songs), romances (ballads), and décimas (ten-line stanzas). Further south in the Pacific region, currulao, played with marimba, drums, and voices, is a central genre generally thought to have a more African derivation. In the northern Cauca region, fugas (fugues) and coplas (rhyming couplets) are European-derived forms that are widely played and sung among Black people.
 
In the Caribbean coast region, there is a huge variety of styles, including the cumbia, which exists in both folkloric and commercialized forms. Music there is often held to be of triethnic origin, but the major inputs have come from European and African traditions in a complex cultural interchange. During the twentieth century, genres f
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bml00

From: bml00

Aug-9

This is acceptable to you ? This you are tolerating ?
slackerx said:

All that our goddaughter's aunt wanted was to see her family for Christmas. For that one single sin, BM dances on her grave. Fuck the real War on Christmas. And fuck BM for not allowing Catholics to celebrate Christmas in peace. Fuck BM's Water War on America. Why do our families have to die just to please BM? Black Lives Matter. Indigenous Lives Matter. Fuck Tom Metzger and all of his supporters, including BM. I don't trust anybody who supports Tom Metzger. And fuck the Nazi Water Wars seeking to divide America. More than 10,000 Catholics have died due to BM's Water War on America.

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bml00

From: bml00

Aug-9

This was reported to Jenifer she did nothing

BM

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

Aug-10

I have no idea where this crap has come from, or why it is in my forum.

You have clearly dragged an argument from another forum in here and are inexplicably blaming me for it.

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Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

Aug-10

bml00

From: bml00

Aug-10

Madam ,

I did not deal with the cretin on any forum it was a waste of my time , if wanted to learn to Samba do you think I would ask Shit for Brains for a lesson.

The Other poster bought his luggage here when he we was told to leave on OP he had driven people mad with mad unfounded allegations as you see here .

Please dont accuse me of bringing the half wit here as that is the last thing I need as if there were not enough prats that abound .

Do I celebrate Christmas or make war on Christmas or have ever - ever attacked the Catholic faith in any shape or means or even created a water war with the imbecile WOW 

BM

bml00

From: bml00

Aug-10

This was no war , wars are very different , Israel did not look for conflict with Gaza then or now .

(6) How do people in Sderot live - YouTube

BM

  • Edited August 10, 2021 6:51 am  by  bml00
slackerx

From: slackerx

Aug-10

bml00 said...

Do I celebrate Christmas or make war on Christmas or have ever

I thought that we hugged and made up yesterday.

What's with all the gratuitous insults?

And what's with all the lies?

You go on and on about your love for Christmas.

All that we want is for our families to be able to celebrate Christmas, also.

 
 
Even in this forum, you talk about your violent invasive perversions reguarding Christmas Pud, whatever that is, in support of a white supremacist who attacks Black Jews and Black Catholics in his "well said" attacks.
 
 
You talk about the comercialization of Christmas, and how billions of dollars in arms sales happen on Christmas. (Honestly, even as an atheist, I think that you may be missing the true meaning of Christmas, here. Many Christmas would find your ideas about Christmas rather offensive.) You try to tell Americans that Guns are the true meaning of Christmas.
 
 
 
  • Edited August 10, 2021 9:22 am  by  slackerx
bml00

From: bml00

Aug-10

Are we permitted to bring messages from another forum over here without permission?

BM

slackerx

From: slackerx

Aug-10

bml00 said...

I did not deal with the cretin on any forum it was a waste of my time , if wanted to learn to Samba do you think I would ask Shit for Brains for a lesson.

What is it with you and your discredited racist IQ theories that you keep pushing? Who the hell do you think you are, Sarahon Shelah? Let me tell you something. You most certainly are no Sarahan Shelah.

Secondly, while I do have a couple of Samba CD's somewhere, a CD of Bosa Nova and a CD of some old-school Samba, Samba is from Brazil. Why are you bringing up Brazilian music, here? What does that have to do with you, me, Jennifer or Israel?

Now, back on the topic of Israel. This is Saharon Shelah.

Saharon Shelah - Wikipedia

File:Saharon Shelah.jpg

Amazon.com: Classification Theory, Second Edition: and the Number of Non-Isomorphic Models (Studies in Logic and the Foundations of Mathematics) (9780444702609): Shelah, S.: Books

  • Edited August 10, 2021 9:34 am  by  slackerx
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