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Is North Korea a nuclear threat?   Asia

Started 6/13/18 by OSarge (DD214_98); 66545 views.
bml00

From: bml00 

4/17/20

The fit of his clothes and his hair cut what more do you want ?

bm

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph 

4/17/20

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Why do you defend this man? 

?I'm not defending him. I'm just pointing out that Korea will be destroyed if it can't retaliate.

That must surely be the lesson of Saddam and Gaddafi - and Assad. And even Vietnam. 

You do want us all to learn the lessons of the Holocaust, don't you?

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Tell me one single redeeming quality Kim Jong Un has.

He's burningly patriotic.

He will never collaborate with the occupation and their puppet government.

Why are you denouncing the most important lesson of the Holocaust?

Great Leader Kim Jong-Un - and the Korean people - have learned that lesson and will never behave like the Zionists.

This is Hannah Arendt, great philosopher of German and American Zionism, on the "Yellow Stars" and the lessons of the Eichmann trial:

1963 ... To a Jew this role of the Jewish leaders in the destruction of their own people is undoubtedly the darkest chapter of the whole dark story. ... there was no distinction between the highly assimilated Jewish communities of Central and Western Europe and the Yiddish-speaking masses of the East.

In Amsterdam as in Warsaw, in Berlin as in Budapest, Jewish officials could be trusted to compile the lists of persons and of their property, to secure money from the deportees to defray the expenses of their deportation and extermination, to keep track of vacated apartments, to supply police forces to help seize Jews and get them on trains, until, as a last gesture, they handed over the assets of the Jewish community in good order for final confiscation.

They distributed the Yellow Star badges, and sometimes, as in Warsaw, "the sale of the armbands became a regular business; there were ordinary armbands of cloth and fancy plastic armbands which were washable." In the Nazi-inspired, but not Nazi dictated, manifestoes they issued, we still can sense how they enjoyed their new power - "The Central Jewish Council has been granted the right of absolute disposal over all Jewish spiritual and material wealth and over all Jewish manpower," as the first announcement of the Budapest Council phrased it.

We know how the Jewish officials felt when they became instruments of murder ... No one bothered to swear the Jewish officials to secrecy; they were voluntary "bearers of secrets," either in order to assure quiet and prevent panic, as in Dr. Kastner's case, or out of "humane" considerations, such as that "living in the expectation of death by gassing would only be the harder," as in the case of Dr. Leo Baeck, former Chief Rabbi of Berlin.

During the Eichmann trial, one witness pointed out the unfortunate consequences of this kind of "humanity" - people volunteered for deportation from Theresienstadt to Auschwitz and denounced those who tried to tell them the truth as being "not sane." https://www.academia.edu/6230312/Arendt_Hannah_-_Eichmann_in_Jerusalem

Hannah Arendt provides this "Note to the Reader":

This is a revised and enlarged edition of the book which first appeared in May, 1963. I covered the Eichmann trial at Jerusalem in 1961 for The New Yorker, where this account, slightly abbreviated, was originally published in February and March, 1963.

(Arendt is of course lying - those she claims are the Jews were actually the Zionists in their number, elbowing their way to the lead, accepting Nazi inducements to betray their own people just as, 7 years earlier in 1933, they'd accepted American money to betray their own people, preaching "Jews cannot be Germans").

Hannah Arendt was of course hated and reviled by the collaborators she exposed - and patriotic Koreans continue to suffer the same for trying to hold their heads up.

bml00

From: bml00 

4/17/20

Does not take much to get the prick from Korea to Jews and of course they ( the Jews) are liars 

your understanding of racists is mystifying 

BM

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph 

4/17/20

bml00 said:

Does not take much to get the prick from Korea to Jews and of course they ( the Jews) are liars 

You seem determined to link the Jews to their betrayal by the Zionists.

Most clearly seen in Hungary - where Rudolf Kastner tricked 437,000 Jews onto trains that, he knew, took them straight to the gas-chambers.

You really hate me for reminding you of that, don't you?

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph 

4/17/20

MEDDLY said:

The first sizable Jewish presence in Korea was during the Korean War, when hundreds of Jewish soldiers participated in the American-led effort to repel a communist attempt to control the whole peninsula. ... The Jewish population is constantly in flux, due to the rotation of U.S. military personnel in the country. ... At this time, there are no Jewish schools.

You must want the Jews seen as part of the occupation and hated.

MEDDLY said:

While the soldiers have a Jewish chaplain at the Yongsan Army Base, their services are restricted and off-limits to most civilians.

You want the Jews totally linked to the occupation and hated.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph) 

4/18/20

BerrySteph said:

?I'm not defending him. I'm just pointing out that Korea will be destroyed if it can't retaliate.

Why?  By WHO?

KJU does not care about the people of Korea.  He only cares about his own wealth and power.

He does not fear his country being destroyed.

He fears that someone is going to come and take away his big pile of riches, luxury and food.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph) 

4/18/20

bml00 said:

Does not take much to get the prick from Korea to Jews and of course they ( the Jews) are liars

That's why I ignore everything that is not on topic, instead of feeding it like you do.

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Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph) 

4/18/20

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph 

4/18/20

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Why?  By WHO? KJU does not care about the people of Korea.  He only cares about his own wealth and power. He does not fear his country being destroyed. He fears that someone is going to come and take away his big pile of riches, luxury and food.

The US will destroy Korea like it did last time. Its outrageous to suggest that Trump or Bush (or Obama) or the US is any friend of the little brown people.

What I'm posting you is the most horrific and disgusting and genocidal evil - it is outrageous to suggest otherwise.

Occupation forces drop baby down well.

Few escape as an entire population is burned.

South Koreans were targeted for mass-murder and the total destruction of all their history and all of their towns and villages. Number killed totally unknown - but a far worse destruction than Poland under Hitler and Stalin in succession.

As best I know the following commentary is uncontentious - is it true? 100% true or only 99% true?

"The Korean War: 1945-1953" By Hugh Deane (on google books, see link)

p.145 ... The authoritative British military publication Brassey's Annual ... in its 1951 edition: "The war was fought without regard for the South Koreans, and their unfortunate country was regarded as an arena rather than a country to be liberated. As a consequence, fighting was quite ruthless, and it is no exaggeration to state that South Korea no longer exists as a country. Its towns have been destroyed, much of its means of livelihood eradicated, and its people reduced to a sullen mass depending upon charity..."102

Napalm was first used in the third day of the 1950 war ... Soon the use of napalm was a celebrated weapon in military journals. ... "They Don't Like 'Hell Bombs'" (Armed Forces Chemical Journal, January 1951) ... the number of "hell bombs" dropped rose to "astronomical figures" and pilots soon, were complaining about the scarcity of targets.

... a soldier's account of a mistaken drop of napalm on about a dozen American GIs by a Marine Corsair in northeast Korea "Men all around me were burned. They lay rolling in the snow. Men I knew, marched and fought with begged me to shoot them ... I couldn't. It was terrible. Where the napalm had burned the skin to a crisp, it would be peeled hack from the face, arms, legs ... like fried potato chips"103

... Planes flew low down city and town streets killing clusters and targeted peasants in the fields. ... By the end of the war, by which time 33,000 tons of napalm had been dropped, most of the survivors were living in caves or underground shelters.

... The U.S. ... able to de-urbanize Korea in a matter of months. General Emmett (Rosie) O'Donnell ... testified at the MacArthur hearings that by the time the war was three months old "almost all the Korean peninsula" was "just a terrible mess ... Everything is destroyed. There is nothing standing worthy of the name" ... Senator Russell, in the chair, told O'Donnell that "I think you have demonstrated soldierly qualities that endeared you to the American people."101 http://books.google.com.au/books?id=XMJpnYmKNQsC&pg=PA145

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