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Is North Korea a nuclear threat?   Asia

Started 6/13/18 by OSarge (DD214_98); 45814 views.
BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph 

5/6/19

Everything I'm posting is either true, or at least well justified by public information from respectable (and in many cases, Zionist-friendly) media.

(But you may have caught me out in one of the facts I've presented - I don't know whether members of the British Army in 1919 were just back from the trenches or not).

How about the other "facts" I've presented - why is it so rare that you ever manage to correct me (as you think you've nearly done here)?

Meanwhile, listen with admiration to the world's most honourable people and Winston Churchill addressing Parliament:

... World War I was just over ... many members of Parliament knew, of many instances in which officers, in 'infinitely more trying' situation than the one in Bagh, had, unlike the general, displayed an ability to arrive 'at the right decision.'

... Dyer's most vocal champions agreed with Churchill's stand in Russia. It was compassion and its absence, he said, which marked the difference between Englishmen and Bolsheviks.

His own hatred of Lenin's regime was 'not founded on their silly system of economics, or their absurd doctrine of an impossible equality.' It arose from 'the bloody and devastating terrorism which they practice ... and by which alone their criminal regime can be maintained.'

It was intolerable in Russia; it was intolerable in Amritsar. 'I do not think,' he said, 'that it is in the interests of the British Empire or of the British Army for us to take a load of that sort for all time upon our backs. We have to make it absolutely clear, some way or another, that this is not the British way of doing business.'

He quoted Macaulay: "The most frightful of all spectables [is] the strength of civilisation without its mercy". England's 'reign in India, or anywhere else,' Churchill continued, 'has never stood on the basis of physical force alone, and it would be fatal to the British Empire if we were to try to base ourselves only upon it".

"The British way of doing things...has always meant and implied close and effectual cooperation with the people. In every part of the British Empire that has been our aim".

As for Dyer, Churchill himself would have preferred to see the general disciplined. Instead, he had been allowed to resign with no plan for further punishment, "and to those moderate and considered conclusions we confidently invite the assent of the House".

He sat and the house rose crying, 'Hear, hear.' After five more hours of debate they voted for the government, 247 to 37.

Quoted from: "The Last Lion: Winston Spencer Churchill Visions of Glory 1874-1932" by William Manchester, 1983, Sphere Books Ltd, 1984. pp 568-570. (available atwww.ccp14.ac.uk/people/lachlan/churchill/am-man.htm)

What happened next?

The Hunter Commission ... After meeting in New Delhi on 29 October, the Commission took statements from witnesses over the following weeks. Witnesses were called in Delhi, Ahmedabad, Bombay and Lahore. ... wound up its initial inquiries by examining the principal witnesses to the events in Amritsar.

... the final report, comprising six volumes of evidence and released on 8 March 1920, unanimously condemned Dyer's actions.[42] In "continuing firing as long as he did, it appears to us that General Dyer committed a grave error."[46] 

  • Lack of notice to disperse from the Bagh in the beginning was an error The length of firing showed a grave error
  • Dyer's motive of producing a sufficient moral effect was to be condemned
  • Dyer had overstepped the bounds of his authority
  • There had not been any conspiracy to overthrow British rule in the Punjab
  • The minority report of the Indian members further added that:
  • Proclamations banning public meetings were insufficiently distributed
  • There were innocent people in the crowd, and there had not been any violence in the Bagh beforehand
  • Dyer should have either ordered his troops to help the wounded or instructed the civil authorities to do so
  • Dyer's actions had been "inhuman and un-British" and had greatly injured the image of British rule in India.

... The Legal and Home Members on the Viceroy's Council ultimately decided that, though Dyer had acted in a callous and brutal way, military or legal prosecution would not be possible due to political reasons.

However, he was finally found guilty of a mistaken notion of duty and relieved of his command on 23 March. He had been recommended for a CBE as a result of his service in the Third Afghan War; this recommendation was cancelled on 29 March 1920. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jallianwala_Bagh_massacre

bml00

From: bml00 

5/6/19

Halifax wanted appeasement in your language he wanted to surrender no need to discuss a word further

BM

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph 

5/6/19

bml00 said:

Halifax wanted appeasement in your language he wanted to surrender no need to discuss a word further

Only British lives and treasure lost - you'll be pleased.

And pleased that it pretty much led to the Holocaust.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph) 

5/7/19

The topic is "Is North Korea a Nuclear Threat?"

bml00

From: bml00 

5/7/19

Halifax was like you , an ass kisser , a brown noser and an appeaser .

End of another useless mindless pointless debate .

You cant change history you numb nut

BM

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph 

5/7/19

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

The topic is "Is North Korea a Nuclear Threat?"

If you're a genocidal coloniser, very possibly.

The solution is childishly simple - but not to the liking of genocidal colonisers.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph) 

5/8/19

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph 

5/8/19

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

'One-in-a-million' image captures North Korean missile launch from space

The spectacular image shows the launch site just moments after the rocket was fired 

Is that a scientific story or a propaganda one?

Oh, silly question, its more evidence that brown people cannot be allowed to defend themselves from a genocide they've already suffered once and are threatened with again.

from a known site on the coast of the rogue state over the weekend.
Di (amina046)

From: Di (amina046) 

5/8/19

You need to insult less and read more. The Gurkhas indeed served in WW1, to the tune of 200.000, with casualties numbering approx. 20.000, in France and Belgium.

bml00

From: bml00 

5/9/19

Thanks perhaps you will tell me something I don’t Know UHM?

My Grandfather served as a Lt with the Gurkhas, became very good friends with a fellow officer and after the war they went into business together producing Sherbert

A decade later they sold the business and with what was then a fortune in his pocket the Soldier returned to Nepal 

My grandfather opened a factory producing Bakelite after the war he sold this and opened a very succesful factory producing cheap plastic toys 

In your next missive find something I don’t know ( which is much) 

The Gurkha regiment in the Amritsa massacre had not seen overseas duty FYI

BM

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