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Ignoring the debate on Climate Change.   General Confusion

Started 4/27/19 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 6810 views.
BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

Sep-12

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

This thread is devoted to the people who ignore the debate on the environmental impact of humans and just roll up their sleeves and clean up the mess. This article is inappropriate for the intended topic of this discussion. No hijacking please.

Eldotardo is never going to contribute meaningfully.

However, that posting was her example of the very thing that this thread is about.

So how would we know that she's trolling?

If we're bothered enough to engage we ask her questions on what she said - and if we hate Fake News and seek to shut it down, we demand they answer those questions.

If you want to protect the Forum and be the umpire, then demand (or back up my demands) that Dot answer these questions:

1) .... no questions possible - her article doesn't say anything! Pure fluff!

2) Ask her what's in her posting that's relevant to anything. One person's opinion maybe.

BlueScope chief executive Mr Vassella said the $1 billion expansion of the North Star mill, to be fully up and running by 2023, was the largest capital investment the steelmaker would likely ever make, and would deliver annual returns of 15 per cent-plus.

He said the company had intimate knowledge of the mill because it helped build it in the first place in the mid-1990s in a joint venture with North American group Cargill, and had moved to full ownership in 2015.

Mr Vassella lamented the state of Australian manufacturing as the sector battled high energy prices and said one of the main drivers of the North Star expansion, which will increase capacity by 40 per cent, was that energy costs in the United States were substantially lower.

"That's a tragedy quite frankly for Australian manufacturing,'' Mr Vassella said.

BlueScope also operates the Port Kembla steelworks in New South Wales, which underwent major cost-cutting and restructuring in 2015. Mr Vassella said he worried a lot about manufacturers in Australia who were BlueScope's customers and were facing ''demand destruction'' because their energy costs were too high.

 

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

Sep-14

Firstly, she is a he.

Dot is short for El Dotardo.

And he has no capacity for answering questions, as that would require independent thought.

Conservative blogs tell him what to think.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

Sep-14

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said: ... he has no capacity for answering questions, as that would require independent thought.

I think that's obvious.

it would still be salutory to demand answers from him - then do the same to Adwil and BM.

Wouldn't stop their campaign but stop some of their silliness.

Oh, wait a moment, they're totally shameless, clearly know nothing about David Irving and can't justify even their headline accusations against him.

Cannot defend Deborah Lipstadt from my barbs!

bml00

From: bml00

Sep-14

Ignoring the debate on climate change - the esteemed Jew hater and resident imbecile is talking about Adwil and David Irving ????

BM

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

Sep-14

bml00 said:

Ignoring the debate on climate change - the esteemed Jew hater and resident imbecile is talking about Adwil and David Irving ????

You've no capacity to answer questions.

You might even be worse than the average Climate Denier - and that's saying something!

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

Sep-15

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Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

Sep-18

ElDotardo

From: ElDotardo

Sep-20

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said...

 

This thread is devoted to the people who ignore the debate on the environmental impact of humans and just roll up their sleeves and clean up the mess.

This article is inappropriate for the intended topic of this discussion.

No hijacking please.

 

Really? Seems to be more dedicated to calling me names *chuckle* - no worries, I can take it (I simply consider the source). Oh, was that mean?

Anyway, let's hear it for those smart enought to reject the hoax of AGW.

Raise your hand if you know it's a scam .. . 

Image result for trump meeting Australian PM today

 

 

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

Sep-21

The debate is over for those with intelligence.

The rest just shout "Hoax!" "Witch Hunt!" "Fake Nyooooz!"

Frankly, I'm embarrassed for you.

ElDotardo

From: ElDotardo

Sep-22

Back atcha' . . .

 

No place in debate for climate contrarians

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Consensus enforcement is a potent new force in climate science where sceptical views increasingly are being silenced as a danger to public good.

Academic website The Conversation said this week it would ban comments from those it judged to be climate deniers and lock their accounts. The Conversation editor and executive director Misha Ketchell justified the ban on sceptical comments as a defence of “quiet Australians” who “understand and respect the science”.

The Conversation’s shift to a monologue reflects a deeper push that is raising alarm worldwide.

Contrarian scientist Jennifer Marohasy is among those listed on an international table of climate sceptics whose views should not be published. Marohasy says she is “proud to be listed as part of the resistance to what will one day be recognised as postmodern science”.

“I base my arguments and conclusions on evidence, and I apply logic. Of course, science is a method. Science is never ‘settled’,” she says. “Those who appeal primarily to the authority of science and the notion of a consensus are more interested in politics. Central to the scientific method is the hypothesis that can be tested: that can potentially be falsified. We must therefore always be open-minded, tolerant and ready to be proven wrong.”

Also on the list published by University of California, Merced, were international climate scientists Judith Curry, Richard Lindzen and Richard Tol, as well as academics Bjorn Lomborg and Australia’s Ian Plimer and Maurice Newman.

The list was drawn from research published in the journal Nature, which juxtaposed 386 prominent contrarians with 386 expert scientists by tracking their digital footprints across 200,000 research publications and 100,000 English-language digital and print media articles on climate change.

In a statement accompanying the article, lead author Alex Petersen says: “It’s time to stop giving these people (contrarians) visibility, which can be easily spun into false authority.

“By tracking the digital traces of specific individuals in vast troves of publicly available media data, we developed methods to hold people and media outlets accountable for their roles in the climate change denialism movement, which has given rise to climate change misinformation at scale.”

Curry says the paper “does substantial harm to climate science … There are a spectrum of perspectives, especially at the kn
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