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Yes, the climate changes regardless of the species who inhabit the planet.
But to say that humans bear no responsibility flies in the face of the overwhelming evidence that supports it.
Look at India.
This is Zabol, in Iran
So what's the overwhelming difference?
One place has tonnes of PEOPLE, the other doesn't.
I don't understand how this evidence is (in your mind) wrong.
The pollution is measured. It exists. You can SEE it.
The ice age happened because of orbital fluctuations that affected the temperature of the planet.
The climate changes if the overall planetary temperature changes.
If we raise the temperature by cooking the planet and pumping more CO2 and methane into the atmosphere than is normal, then the climate will change.
And we will bear some responsibility for that.
There is nothing we can do to outright STOP climate change. But we can do our best to NOT exacerbate it.
Pollution is not climate.
There was a hole in the ozone layer caused by CFCs.
People stopped using CFCs.
The hole is closing.
The heath and stability of the atmosphere of the planet is directly related to our protection from the sun's heat and radiation.
If you damage that atmosphere, you endanger the planet.
Pollution damages the atmosphere.
It is actually simpler than you believe.
Hooray, so what? Pollution is not climate.
Pollution is not climate. I cede that obvious point.
But pollution directly affects climate.
If pollution makes living things sick - then why is the Earth exempt from that sickness?
Life cannot exist on planets within our own solar system if the atmosphere is toxic or nonexistent.
The sun is way too unforgiving and our apple-skin thin atmosphere is our only protection.
Burning that atmosphere away is counterproductive for the future of life on Earth.
*heh*Air pollution delays the age girls start their periods and makes their menstrual cycles more irregular, according to a study
This is odd.
I thought that all the hormones and genetically modified food was making girls develop earlier.
I suppose we could always go back to leaded petrol...