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The debate on Climate Change   General Confusion

Started 7/18/17 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 177202 views.

From: ElDotardo


Can't win the argument. Stays away from a forum that challenges her.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)

From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)


I know!  I know!!

I see my messages piling up!

I'll try to get through some today.

If it's any consolation, your forum is not the only one I'm neglecting these days!


From: ElDotardo


I understand. One can quickly spread oneself too thin in this environment. No worries.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)

From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)


Oh, yeah.

I remember Matt Stone and Trey Parker talking about being at a dinner party with some high end Hollywood types all talking about their hybrid cars and patting themselves on the back for being so environmentally fantastic. 

So Matt asked "But don't you all fly around in private jets?"

Hybrid cars don't cause smog, but they are the leading cause of smug.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)

From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)


Mysteries of Southern Ocean air on the radar of landmark atmospheric study


A crack team of US climate researchers have gathered in Hobart to unlock the mysteries of the air above the Southern Ocean.

To help them, they have control of a state-of-the-art Gulfstream V aircraft, packed full of cutting-edge climate reading machines and instruments.

They'll be embarking on dozens of day-long flights south of Tasmania during their stay, with a focus on clouds, radiation and aerosols.

"This is a very important region. The Southern Ocean is the interface between the Antarctic ice shelves and the entire southern hemisphere," said Principal Investigator and Director, Professor Greg McFarquhar from the University of Oklahoma.

"If you want to understand global climate, you really need to understand what is happening here can even have influence on things like the location of the tropical rainfall belts."

Professor McFarquhar said one of the biggest uncertainties looking at simulations of climate change was understanding how man-made aerosols have impacted on the climate.

"In order to enhance our understanding of that, one of the biggest uncertainties we have is a knowledge of what pre-industrial aerosols are," he said.

"Of course we can't measure that anymore, but the closest thing we can get to that is the very pristine environment over the Southern Ocean."

Hundreds of atmospheric measuring devices would be dropped from the sky and parachuted to the ocean's surface, similar to those used by hurricane hunters and storm chasers in the United States.

The devices send back live data to the aircraft as they make their descent.

A special laser telescope in the centre of the plane was working alongside wing-tip radars to gain a complete picture of the atmosphere.

Many of the instruments on board the plane are so complex they required years of fine tuning.

The mission is being supported by Australian scientists at the weather bureau and the CSIRO.

It'll conclude at the end of the month, but the results from the vast amounts of data being gathered will be studied for a long time after that.


From: Johneeo


Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Average surface temperatures in 2017 were 1.1 degree above pre-industrial times, creeping towards 1.5C, the most ambitious limit for global warming set by almost 200 nations under the 2015 Paris climate agreement.

Just curious, where do they stick the thermometer in the earth to get the "average temperature".

Literally impossible to determine the "average temperature".