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The debate on Climate Change   General Confusion

Started 7/18/17 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 106490 views.
Trolly8

From: Trolly8

8/20/19

NOT REALLY! Solar power is a panacea. It costs way too much over the long run. Light>electricity panels have definite service lives, as do wind turbines and solar furnaces. They also require much more maintenance, just Google burning wind turbines if you doubt this. They all have different drawbacks. Nuclear power has the least of these. Fossil fuels release more Radio Active Carbon 14 into the air each year than all the Nuclear accidents and weapons testing combined. Fusion powered mass electrification, long just over the horizon for decades, is the bright future, but in the meantime, only fossil fuels can save mankind! Power-energy-or whatever you will call it is required to save humanity. It is the only single point failure in humanities future. Starvation is a problem now, it was a problem in the 60's, 70's, 80's when I was overseas watching first hand, but not now because of energy intensive farming! Now we have a peace problem because to few people believe that we have a moral obligation to protect the weak, or much worse yet, oppose those of us who do, thus preventing a modern day Pax Britannia in the form of American military action to keep petty war lords from enriching themselves at the expense of starvation of their people. If history has taught us nothing else, it is that the only kind of military action that brings true peace is the Shock and Aw, over whelming firepower, 50% casualties among the bad guys kind.

I know it sounds harsh, or even evil, sticking our nose into other people's self determination, but that is the true way of life for over 10,000 years of this planet's history, except for the last ~400-900 years of Western Civilization and the rise of America as the worlds fist and only example of what freedom can do!

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

8/20/19

Trolly8 said:

If history has taught us nothing else, it is that the only kind of military action that brings true peace is the Shock and Aw, over whelming firepower, 50% casualties among the bad guys kind.

True peace in Iraq?

You didn't directly bring about the birth of ISIS?

Trolly8

From: Trolly8

8/20/19

Right on! I wish I had the time to research all this stuff on my own. But well done in spite of the many mistakes of details such as the Nellis Solar Array's power availability is not the 30% quoted, but more like 50%! Small, but significant details that do not change a thing in the debate! "Renewable" energy is a panacea for idiots, ignoramii and the politically motivated who want to impose their vision on the rest of us who actually do something about the world's problems!

Trolly8

From: Trolly8

8/20/19

You reply clearly shows that you do not have a clue what you are talking about! Didn't you read that article several posts above? Don't you know that all sources of energy production release vast amounts of Radionuclides, like Carbon-14? So much in fact that they dwarf all previous accidents and weapons tests combined every year and none of it approaches solar and cosmic radiation?

Use this forum to enrich your knowledge, find the facts, even when they dispute your views, and become a true conservative in ALL things!

ElDotardo

From: ElDotardo

8/20/19

Gracias. For tens of thousands of posts (some opinion/some scientific) debunking AGW shared over the past ten+ years, you might want to check out a forum where free expression of ideas that run counter to the 'settled' hogwash of the warmists is welcome, try DiverseCity (available on the drop down menu above).

Invasion of the lifestyle snatchers

Lately, some op-eds have been questioning whether Greta Thunberg is simply a mindless puppet.

” WITH cold, hard eyes, Greta Thunberg jabs a finger forward – like Lord Kitchener in the famous “Your country needs you” wartime posters. “

The Sun featured this GQ cover, and the parallel to the famous end scene of “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” immediately jumped out at me.

In the Sun article they say:

And Greta began to pressure her family to change their lifestyles.

Svante, 50, and Malena turned vegan and bought an electric car, and in 2016 Greta convinced her mother to stop flying, which impacted her singing career.

Malena went on to back the “flight-shaming” movement that started in Sweden a year later.

Even some normally over the top climate scientists are starting to doubt her.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/08/20/invasion-of-the-lifestyle-snatchers/

 

Trolly8

From: Trolly8

8/20/19

From: adwil

Aug-19

"It seems that science can be ignored and perverted to show the "Proofs" the AGW sheeple need to keep their dreams alive?"

Of course science can be perverted, but in the case of global warming, I am aware of the increasing temperatures and increasing volatility of the climate.

Perverting science is what the AGW Luddites like you do every day. Just one question: Have you read any of the approximately 2,200 e-mails between the original authors of the "Hockey stick" report?

There is NO science behind the AGW debate. None of those computer models have been published that they may be subject to independent scrutiny and verification. Open Source Peer Review is the backbone of modern science and when it is actively prevented like it has been for the last four or five decades, nothing they say can, or should be believed!

Trolly8

From: Trolly8

8/20/19

If any of that is true (and there's a lot of just that kind of fraud in cyberspace - aimed at picking up women and/or practising for that purpose) then you were in the region systematically arranging chaos and suffering.

"Shock and Awe" - be proud of it.

I am! Every single one of the animals (People do not do those things!) I killed was in desperate need of it! I was stationed in Asmara, Ethiopia for three years and witnessed horrible crimes against innocents and children committed by Islamic Jihadists! Any time you shoot a terrorist behind the ear before he cuts the breast off of a 12 YO Girl, you did a great and good thing that day! As to picking up women, I am 70 years old, but still hope to find a woman smart enough to want to travel the world with a disabled old fart.

adwil

From: adwil

8/20/19

I'm afraid I don't believe you.  

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

8/20/19

ElDotardo said:

Even some normally over the top climate scientists are starting to doubt her.

The wunder-kind is 16 years old and she speaks for a generation that has to live with the immense mess we've created.

She may not be right - but she is the future.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

8/20/19

Trolly8 said:

I am! Every single one of the animals (People do not do those things!) I killed was in desperate need of it! I was stationed in Asmara, Ethiopia for three years and witnessed horrible crimes against innocents and children committed by Islamic Jihadists!

You were in their country, brutalising their women, but they're the bad guys?

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