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The debate on Climate Change   General Confusion

Started 7/18/17 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 106488 views.
Trolly8

From: Trolly8

8/21/19

You were in their country, brutalising their women, but they're the bad guys?

I'm sorry, but I can't let this go. Read some history. Ethiopia is-was a Coptic Christian Nation. It was being invaded by Islamic fanatics, the ELF, Somalis, Cubans, Sudanese and other Islamo-Fascist-Terrorists! We had been there since WW-II, maybe even before, I can not remember the exact date and everyone was happy until the IFTs showed up.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

8/22/19

Trolly8 said:

Why do you think they would have to collude to lie?

You've lost me.

Professor Jones was working alone in a tiny office without enough space to keep all the records. 

His work was flawed but he'd done it honestly and the conclusions were generally right.

Except in one respect - his results are the only ones that might have showed a 15-year plateau of global warming! Everyone else thought (to 95%  certainty?) that temperature continued to rise after the 1998 peak.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

8/22/19

Trolly8 said:

PBS here is so biased no-one takes them seriously.

You're just trolling.

PBS is subject to right-wing pro-war criminal bias and censorship, as over Vietnam.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

8/22/19

Trolly8 said:

was using current verbiage to make a point about wars that DO bring about a lasting peace.

You brought up Iraq ("Shock and Awe") as has been a huge disaster.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

8/22/19

I absolutely agree that nuclear power is the way to go in the future.

We have to get past our fear.

Renewables are supplements, yes, but every little bit helps.

Australia is lousy with uranium, but it has such a stigma attached to it.

That whole big bomb thing, I guess.

I think geothermal energy could be another way to get base load power in a greener way.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

8/22/19

Trolly8 said:

We had been there since WW-II, maybe even before, I can not remember the exact date and everyone was happy until the IFTs showed up.

You brutalised their women. Same as you did in Vietnam and Iraq.

Then created desperate jihadi, as in every place you go.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

8/22/19

Trolly8 said:

Didn't you read that article several posts above?

Depends what the article was.

A lot of climate change deniers post "evidence" that is just some guy's blog.

For me the debate is over.  The climate is changing, the Earth is warming, humans are responsible.

The last clingers on to denial are just doing so because they don't want to change their lives or they just don't care.  Not to mention those who make money from the death of the planet.

After all, it's their grandkids' problem.  And fuck 'em!

I prefer those who ignore the debate completely and just get on with doing their part to help.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

8/22/19

You have enough conservative voices in D.C to form a complete circle jerk of mutual agreement.

Don't try to steal my new Republican!

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

8/22/19

Trolly8 said:

How come the mainstream news never publishes any the thousands of dissenting opinions?

On the contrary.  The media's bias towards balance in the media often sees some delusional idiot having their say on Climate Change, (and vaccinations) in a split screen debate that gives the impression of a 50/50 split on the issue.

If the media really wants to be balanced and fair, then they should have one hold out and their 2 friends vs 97 scientists with decades of irrefutable proof.

Simply put, if 97 doctors told you you had cancer, why are you listening to the 3 naturopaths who are saying everything is fine?

Because it's comforting, I guess.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

8/22/19

How about Associated Press?

Or is any news source that doesn't grovel at Trump's feet automatically biased?

You can't declare bias in the media, and then admit you only watch Fox News and read conservative blogs.


I mean, did you actually READ the Wikipedia entry?  It basically calls out Climate change deniers as idiots who skip past the data in order to cherry pick out one sentence of uncertainty, then ride it - as though one scientist admitting they don't know the answer to a problem is good enough reason to doubt all science and the process.

This is how science denial works.

Just like any other ignorant view - be it anti-vaxxers, bible thumpers or flat earthers.

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