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The debate on Climate Change   General Confusion

Started 7/18/17 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 198771 views.
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)


Paris accord: Syria plans to join climate agreement, leaving US only country opposed

Syria has announced it intends to join the 2015 Paris agreement for slowing climate change, leaving the United States as the only country in the world opposed to the pact.

Key points:

  • Nicaragua signed up to Paris deal last month
  • Unclear how US will withdraw from agreement
  • Countries continue to urge US to reconsider opposition

Syria, wracked by civil war, and Nicaragua were the only two nations outside the 195-nation pact when it was agreed in 2015.

Nicaragua's left-wing Government, which originally denounced the plan as too weak, signed up last month.

"I would like to affirm the Syrian Arab Republic's commitment to the Paris climate change accord," deputy Environment Minister Wadah Katmawi told a meeting of almost 200 countries at the November 6-17 climate talks in Bonn, Germany.

Membership for Syria under President Bashar al-Assad would isolate the United States, the world's biggest economy and second largest greenhouse gas emitter behind China, as the only nation opposed to the accord.

US President Donald Trump, who has expressed doubts that man-made greenhouse gas emissions are the prime cause of global warming, announced in June the intended to pull out and instead promote US coal and oil industries.


You remember how Star Trek always alluded to the fact that the Federation was a US led thing?  That all the solutions to the world's problems started there?

Science fiction really is fantasy...

Make America Obsolete!

Oh wait, that spells MAO.


From: Johneeo


Syria will become the new United Nations Headquarters.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)

From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)



Assad or Twitler...

Jenifer (Zarknorph)

From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)


Choking on democracy: Why Delhi's air worsens as Beijing's improves

It's difficult to convey how oppressive Delhi's air pollution is.

Key points:

  • New Delhi's count of harmful PM2.5 particles exceeds a staggering 1,000
  • The highest rating is reserved for readings between 300 and 500
  • Millions of tweets, Facebook and WhatsApp posts express people's collective frustration

Morning visibility is a couple of hundred metres. Through the eerie filtered light, figures emerge from and disappear into the gloom.

Some wear masks or handkerchiefs, most blithely dismiss the apocalyptic atmosphere, shrugging it off as "just fog".

Except it isn't.

Last Wednesday, central New Delhi's count of harmful PM2.5 particles exceeded a staggering 1,000 on the US EPA's air quality index. To put that in perspective, the highest rating, "hazardous to human health — do not go outside", is reserved for readings between 300 and 500.

Delhi was off the scale, twice.

Vehicles drive through heavy smog in Delhi.

Following angry protests several years ago, Chinese Premier Li Keqiang declared "war" on pollution, fearing worsening air could spark wider community unrest.

He ordered crackdowns on factories and power plants flouting rarely-enforced regulations.

According to Greenpeace, it's working.

Last year, the environmental group examined a decade of satellite particulate matter measurements, concluding "China's systematic efforts to combat air pollution have achieved an impressive improvement in average air quality".

India generally dislikes comparisons to rival China, and Greenpeace's findings didn't make for happy reading in Delhi.

"From 2011 to 2015, China has made big strides while in India, pollution levels have kept rising," the report noted.

Why? Because Delhiites' seasonal outrage rarely outlasts their social media posts, and the country's politicians know it.

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)


Climate scientists warn time is running out to prevent global environmental collapse

Time is running out to prevent a global environmental collapse — that's the stark warning 15,364 of the world's leading climate scientists have sent out.

Key points:

  • 15,364 scientists from 180 countries out their names to the BioScience journal article
  • Paper called for population growth to be limited, and governments to stop only focusing on economic growth
  • However, scientists said it was not too late for governments to take action to prevent it

Scientists from 180 countries, many in the developing world, put their names to the journal article published today in Bioscience, which also predicted temperature rises and unpredictable weather patterns that would cause widespread misery.

But the paper also noted it was not too late for governments to do something about it.

The number is believed to be the largest group of scientists to have ever put their names to a research paper focused on climate change.

One of the key authors of the paper, Bill Laurance, a research professor at James Cook University in Queensland, said this was the first time he had ever seen such a letter get sent out.

The paper focused on a number of issues, including the depletion of oceans, deforestation, endangered species and extinct species numbers, fresh water pollution and urban liveability.

It found the amount of fresh water available per capita has reduced by a quarter and almost 300 million acres of forests have been lost since 1960, while the human population has risen by a third.

"All kinds of instances of liveability of the planet," he said.

"It's far more than just climate change, although that's certainly a critical part."

The paper has depicted a bleak future world ravaged by climate change, a world characterised by human misery.

It called for population growth to be limited and for governments to stop focusing solely on economic growth.

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From: Johneeo


I do not waste time arguing about "climate change", which used to be "global warming".

Climate, weather, change, hot, cold, ice age, volcanoes have been happening for hundreds of million years.  I guess dinosaur farts caused the ice age?

To think that man can actually change/effect global weather is beyond preposterous.  As we say in Philly, fuggedabowdit.

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What possible effect could ONE species have on the ecosystem of an entire planet?

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Powering Past Coal Alliance: 20 countries sign up to phase out coal power by 2030


Twenty countries including Britain, Canada and New Zealand have joined an international alliance to phase out coal from power generation before 2030.

The Powering Past Coal Alliance was unveiled at the COP23 climate talks in Bonn, Germany, which were working out the technical details of the 2015 Paris Agreement.

"I think we can safely say that the response has been overwhelming," Canadian Environment Minister Catherine McKenna said.

"There is so much momentum, there is so much ambition in this room."

The alliance, which isn't legally binding, was launched days after a pro-coal presentation by the Trump administration jarred with many ministers who wanted the talks to focus on cleaner energy sources.

Included countries:

  • Angola
  • Austria
  • Belgium
  • Britain
  • Canada
  • Costa Rica
  • Denmark
  • El Salvador
  • Fiji
  • Finland
  • France
  • Italy
  • Luxembourg
  • The Marshall Islands
  • Mexico
  • The Netherlands
  • New Zealand
  • Niue
  • Portugal
  • Switzerland

Australia isn't part of the alliance, which also doesn't include some of the world's biggest coal users China, India, the United States, Germany and Russia.

Coal is responsible for more than 40 per cent of global emissions of the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide.

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