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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)
12/5/17
Wait, you were behaving yourself?
Either the nuances were too subtle, or I blinked and missed it.
I do tend to get distracted by shiny obje- PRETTY!
From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)
12/5/17
Replying to the post in the Christmas thread...
You said:
Read this:
http://wbckfm.com/arctic-ice-increase-global-warming/
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I did.
You sent me to a radio station's website who sourced their information from a blog called 'The Deplorable Climate Science Blog'. The blog cherry picked from any news articles from unknown sources that would support their preconceived notions and baseless claims such as '100% of US Warming is due to data tampering' and every second articles' title has the word Fraud in it.
It assumes all scientists are liars and con men, but has no explanation as to why - or what they hope to achieve with this global hoax.
I don't consider this to be an unbiased source trusted to focus on interpreting scientific data with no agenda.
But keep trying.
Cheers,
Jenifer
From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)
1/12/18
Lead detected in Sydney and Broken Hill bees due to environmental pollution
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Next time you are spreading honey on your crumpet have a think about how that sweet stuff, and its yellow and black creators, are affected by the environment around you.
Researchers have used bees to monitor pollution for the first time in Australia and have found significant lead levels in the insects depending on location.
It is a reminder that whatever we pollute the world with will end up back in our systems.
The levels of metal varied depending on the history of the land, with scientists finding huge differences between Sydney and Broken Hill.
Sydney dwelling bees are affected by former leaded petrol emissions from the '70s, '80s and '90s, with highest lead levels in the CBD, Surry Hills and Newtown (230-440 micrograms per kilogram).
Fortunately however, the amount of lead found in honey from these bees was negligible.
In comparison, Broken Hill bees possessed much higher levels of lead thanks to ongoing lead mining, with around 2,570ug/kg detected, and in turn, a much higher concentration of lead in the honey.
Professor Mark Taylor, leader of the research team at Macquarie University which undertook the study, said the findings provided a stark warning against the unsafe use of chemicals in the environment.
"They don't degrade that quickly, they get into the ecological systems and they don't break down in many cases and they are persistent and typically harmful," Professor Taylor said.
Lucky for us it seems bees protect their sticky stuff and filter the lead therefore limiting its passage into the honey.
The fact that their honey contains much less lead than their bodies may be an accidental convenience or an adaptation.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-13/lead-found-in-sydney-and-broken-hill-bees/9325712
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Happy New Year Johnno. I have no doubt you'll cry "Fuck the bees! What do they do for the planet anyway?"
From: Johneeo
1/13/18
Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:Happy New Year Johnno. I have no doubt you'll cry "Fuck the bees! What do they do for the planet anyway?"
Not a big concern for me, as the bees are all gonna freeze to death due to global warming.
My big concern is today's Eagles game against the Atlanta Falcons.
Been a while since I've been here. On December 9 after the Army Navy game a drunken Army guy rear ended me, so I have been doing therapy for whiplash and back damage. Lot's of fun dealing with multiple insurance companies, health care, doctors and my employer, Comcast. But, be not concerned, my cat scan came back fine, so my brilliance is unaffected.
Then, this week, my computer hard drive took a dump, so been working on getting everything up and running. What a pain in the ass. Just logging into sites, I have 122 user names and passwords.
From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)
1/13/18
Oh, my poor Johnno!
Glad you're okay.
I wondered where you'd got to.
Johneeo said:My big concern is today's Eagles game against the Atlanta Falcons.
I have no idea who those people are. But given the weather over there, is the sport curling?
Johneeo said:Just logging into sites, I have 122 user names and passwords.
Check out a program called Dashlane. It's free and deals with all your passwords safely.
Get better and good luck with the insurance!
Cheers,
Jenifer
From: Johneeo
1/14/18
Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:Glad you're okay.
You are so sweet.
Still have the hots for me, huh?
From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)
1/14/18
Turns out you're not as bad as some who frequent Delphi.
I fear I took you for granted.
Cheers,
Jenifer
From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)
1/18/18
Even without El Nino, Earth sweltered again in 2017, UN's World Meteorological Organisation says
Last year was the second or third warmest on record behind 2016, and the hottest without an extra dose of heat caused by an El Nino event in the Pacific Ocean, the United Nations says.
Key points:
- Scientists say 2017 was the hottest year recorded without an El Nino boosting temperatures
- Global average temperature in 2017 was 14.7C, 0.84 degrees above the 20th century average
- Temperatures in both 2016 and 2015 were lifted by an El Nino event
Average surface temperatures in 2017 were 1.1 degree above pre-industrial times, creeping towards 1.5C, the most ambitious limit for global warming set by almost 200 nations under the 2015 Paris climate agreement.
The agreement has been weakened by a plan by US President Donald Trump, who doubts mainstream scientific findings that warming is driven by man-made greenhouse gases, to pull out.
The UN's World Meteorological Organisation (WMO) said 2017 was indistinguishable from 2015 as the second or third warmest year behind 2016, and made 2017 "the warmest year without an El Nino" in records dating back to the late 19th century.
Temperatures in both 2016 and 2015 were lifted by an El Nino, a natural event which can disrupt weather patterns worldwide every few years and releases heat from the tropical Pacific Ocean into the atmosphere.
The WMO said 17 of the warmest 18 years since records began in the 19th century have now happened since 2000, confirming a warming trend driven by manmade greenhouse gases.
"We're in a long-term warming trend despite the ups and downs you get on an annual basis, even a decadal basis," said Gavin Schmidt, of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, whose data is used by the WMO.
"When even the 'colder' years are rewriting the warmest year record books, we know we have a problem," said Professor Dave Reay, chair in carbon management at the University of Edinburgh.
Among extreme weather events last year, the Caribbean and the United States suffered a battering from hurricanes, the Arctic ended 2017 with the least sea ice for mid-winter and tropical coral reefs suffered from high water temperatures.
From: ElDotardo
1/19/18
Oooooo, the UN, eh? Well then, I suppose the issue is settled, right?
The inconvenient truth is that catastrophists are wrong
Comment from Australia
It should come as a great relief to know the freezing temperatures recently experienced in the northern hemisphere do not signal an end to global warming.
Imagine if mankind’s increasingly costly attempts to arrest CO2 emissions were unnecessary. That the misallocation of productive resources, prolonging the misery of the world’s most vulnerable people, was nothing more than a cynical ideological exercise?
Hopefully, those global warming doubters in Florida watching frozen iguanas falling stiff from the trees now know that while they were freezing, according to Australia’s Bureau of Meteorology, little old Penrith in Sydney, Australia, was the warmest spot on the planet, recording its highest temperature ever, having “broken the all-time maximum temperature record for … the Sydney metropolitan area”.
Well, perhaps in all that excitement the bureau can be forgiven for overlooking the fact Penrith Lakes started recording temperatures only in 1995 and for missing a much higher temperature recorded in nearby Richmond in 1939. But they were right. It was hot.
In a hurried piece in Fairfax publications, the Climate Council of Australia’s Will Steffen throws hot water on any misconceptions that may have been drawn from abnormal snowfalls in Britain, Switzerland and Japan, the record-breaking cold snap in Canada and the US, and the expansion of the East Antarctic Ice Sheet.
He says: “Terms like ‘global warming’ and the mental images they trigger can be misleading when people attempt to understand what is happening to the climate. A far better term is ‘climate disruption’, which captures the real nature of the vast array of changes, many of them abrupt and unexpected, that are occurring.”
So fire and ice, it’s to be expected.
Of course you won’t be surprised to learn Steffen claims “the climate disruption we are increasingly experiencing is not natural. It is caused by the heat-trapping gases we humans are pouring into the atmosphere primarily by the burning of coal, oil and gas.”
On the day Steffen’s opinion piece appeared, this newspaper republished Matt Ridley’s article in The Times claiming “the Earth is very slowly slipping back into a proper ice age”. This confirms research by Henrik Svensmark, Australia’s David Evans and others, who correlated lo
From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)
1/19/18
Okay, Dotard.
What do you honestly, personally believe is happening to the planet?
Why are we experiencing so many extremes in the weather if the climate is not changing?
Or are you saying that none of it is real? We are NOT experiencing strange weather phenomenon at all?
Are you saying that all pollution is harmless? No, of course not.
You don't have to agree on Climate Change consensus to agree that pollution is bad for the planet.
Burning any fuel releases chemicals into the atmosphere.
So as "costly" and "inconvenient" as renewable energy infrastructure is, in the long run I feel it is worth it.