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NGSW Phase 2 Consolidation and info   Small Arms <20mm

Started 30/8/19 by gatnerd; 456274 views.
stancrist

From: stancrist

18/8/21

Red7272 said:

Every heard of an AGL why do they need a mortar then?

Well, the most obvious reason to take a mortar is 81mm HE > 40mm HEDP.  sunglasses

Other possible reasons they might want to have a mortar are firing smoke...

...and illumination.

stancrist

From: stancrist

18/8/21

poliorcetes said:

If you dudes continue to talk about 81mm mortars, I won't resist the temptation anymore and I will start to talk about RPAs / UAS which carry mortar bombs right above heads of the adversaries. Please don't make me derail this thread

LOL.  This thread was derailed more than 100 posts ago when the XM25 and Mk47 were brought into the discussion.  stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye

Farmplinker

From: Farmplinker

18/8/21

Got any more good ones?

Red7272

From: Red7272

18/8/21

My favourite is from Iraq. Bunch of guys with AKs blast away at a patrol from 800 metres while there is a closer sniper with a Tabuk hidden inside the back of a car or next to a pile of something soft to mitigate the muzzle report. US army spent years thinking they were being shot from 800 metres by AKs until someone realised it was a Chechen tactic that had made the trip to Iraq. 

DavidPawley

From: DavidPawley

19/8/21

No, I mean the engagement geometry won’t work for many locations. It’s trivial to engage the patrol from 1km and be out of 81mm max range unless the patrol is so close to the fire base that there’s no pretence that the patrol is anything other than perimeter security.

roguetechie

From: roguetechie

20/8/21

Why not?

They're also apparently using aiming and fire control from three generations ago to be sporting in Stan's example so why not have it be a squad 81mm

poliorcetes

From: poliorcetes

20/8/21

Let's re-rail it

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poliorcetes

From: poliorcetes

20/8/21

The more I watch this new render batch, the more I wonder WHY textron's pivoting chamber design is not offered as a bullpup. I mean, the ejection port is forward compared with the magazine well, and the ejection is not violent at all. Therefore, pistol grip could be positioned under the ejection port and it would not be a problem used with either hand.

A bullpup variant would save 15 cm or so that could be used for the barrel

QuintusO

From: QuintusO

20/8/21

because bullpups are a "lose the competition" button, why can't you people understand this?

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