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After 20 years. I cannot figure it out at all
It seems NGSW has recently gotten a Wikipedia entry:
Pretty bare bones. I'm not sure how one edits / writes for Wiki but it could definitely stand to be fleshed out.
Interestingly it currently lists Textron as failed competitor.
Mr. T (MrT4) said:
You can use such micro type unit , just so that you don't need double ear protection. Silent Steel Micro Streamer from Finland adds only 50mm in lenght but you would be looking at well over 150+DB with 9' barrel.
Did you compared it with the simple Rotex "blast deflector" proposed by B&T?
Mr. T (MrT4) said:
I distribute the whole range Silent Steel cans in our country, and since suppressors are now 100% unregulated in our country also manufacture a bunch of different designs,modular designs with optional add-on barrel tuners and muzzle brakes.
Yeah we're pretty much the reverse here in the US - minimally regulated guns, extremely regulated suppressors.
And it's an inevitable move, IMO, for logistics, training, and soldier morale.
* Logistics -- Simplifies ammo production and distribution, with one caliber vs two calibers.
* Training --- All personnel train on rifles of the same type and caliber.
* Morale ----- Soldiers armed with a 6.8 PDW will feel their lives are as important as front-line infantry.
I totally agree, that's why the initial goal of the NGSW ("to replace the M4 & M249 for infantry units only") looked strange to me.
I still have reservations about using a full power 2.8'' cartridge for the PDW + Infantry role, but I'm not the US Army. If very high pressure cartridges are viable, then a +P+ version of the 6 mm ARC seems to be a better bet.
B&T Blast deflector is not even remotely comparable , as its just a sleeve with forward opening , Micro streamer from SS has , a dual flow suppressor element to it , while not very efficient due to short length it still reduces noise some 8-10dB depending on caliber and configuration.
This is just an open sleeve redirecting the gas forward ,no reduction in noise or flash.
I still have reservations about using a full power 2.8'' cartridge for the PDW + Infantry role, but I'm not the US Army.
Yeah, I have the same reservations.
If very high pressure cartridges are viable, then a +P+ version of the 6 mm ARC seems to be a better bet.
Concur. Speaking of which, I have not seen any news on military use of 6mm ARC since the original announcement by Hornady last year. Am wondering if you -- or anyone else here -- have any new info you can share?
Speaking of which, I have not seen any news on military use of 6mm ARC since the original announcement by Hornady last year. Am wondering if you -- or anyone else here -- have any new info you can share?
Ours SF bought rifles & ammo, and plan to do some testing next year.
Ours SF bought rifles & ammo
Very cool. Can you share what rifles they went with?