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Thanks for the update.
I'm curious how the latest version of the G36 is as a rifle:
Height over bore looks pretty brutal through.
Weight is going to be even worse...
I sincerely hope that this isn't what happens. The Germans are on the whole shitty allies but even they don't deserve this.
Looks kinda like the new .22 from Standard Manufacturing. A few changes to it and they'll have a .22 plinker version of HK's newest rifle before HK does!
There are a couple of G36 upgrade options out there , and HK could count on further business upgrading other client's G36 in the future. Kinda wonder what happened to XM-8 tooling and IP as it doesn't seem it will ever show in production in any iteration.
When it comes to height over bore nothing exceeds current G36 with a Red dot on top of the rail.
The xm8 was kinda a warmed over but ultimately flawed G36 to begin with, I'm curious which part of it's IP you think should be resurrected though?
Im curious if you see something that I may have missed.
Edit to add: I'm also really not a fan of the Wilcox "fix" for the g36.
I think that the Germans would be better served going basically any direction but that one.
It's also the worst possible outcome for their own defense industrial base too and regardless of anything else that's an important consideration
Nothing that could be retrofitted. G36 is not a bad gun, XM-8 was for all intents and purposes improved,
But to fix the rail height issue I would make the charging handle manually selected to stay either right or left side and drop the whole rail on top of with minimal gap ,add the HK433 like forend and slightly shorter fatter Barrel and be done with it.
Euro gun optics approach was typically to make integrated sights specific to a gun (AUG,FN2000,G36etc..) ,but considering how long guns stay in service in European militaries that is not really practical anymore as optics are now improving much faster than the other elements.
HK already has a band-aid fix for the heat issue as well as the rail-mounted optics, rail system that also functions as a heat sink,the aluminum forend and top rail equipped rifle on one of my picts.
As seen in patent DE102015013803 (A1) ? 2017-04-27
As Emeric showed a long time ago on this forum, the rail height is actually a non issue. Its impact on hit probability, considering realistic cant effects, is of no significance.