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LMAO Germany adopts an AR-15   Small Arms <20mm

Started 14/9/20 by QuintusO; 49497 views.
Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

3-Dec

1-6x ,1-8x ,1-10x and similar optics are mostly SFP , some are the dual plane, FFP are quite rare. 

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

3-Dec

Not the same scope but they have a whole lineup of SFP low magnification optics.But all with useless reticles

https://marchscopes.com/scopes/d4v24iml/

https://www.eurooptic.com/March-Compact-Scopes.aspx

roguetechie

From: roguetechie

3-Dec

Oh man how the hell is the gun 7.7 pounds with a 13" bbl and such a short handguard?!

That's actually pretty freakishly heavy for something that size

Farmplinker

From: Farmplinker

3-Dec

That's a Howa I'd buy from Weatherby!heart_eyes

stancrist

From: stancrist

3-Dec

The chart shows "Ammunition = 4 g (62 gr) M855A1 FMJBT"

Which do the Japanese use - 62 gr M855A1 or 62 gr FMJBT?

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

4-Dec

stancrist said:

Which do the Japanese use

I have no idea. I'd be surprised but pleased though if they were using m855a1. 

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

4-Dec

roguetechie said:

Oh man how the hell is the gun 7.7 pounds with a 13" bbl and such a short handguard?!

That does seem a bit heavy; the 14.5" H&K 433 is 7.5lbs:

https://www.heckler-koch.com/en/products/military/assault-rifles/hk433/hk433/technical-data.html

I still want one. 

roguetechie

From: roguetechie

4-Dec

So it's only a bit heavy if Howa is weighing guns like many unscrupulous gun companies in the states and Europe weigh their guns (entirely naked and no empty mag etc) AND if that 3.5 kg weight figure isn't someone just rounding to the nearest half kilogram which people also apparently do sometimes.

Considering how thick the bbl profile looks under the handguard it's likely fairly close to right for the "as equipped weight" which may include empty mag the buis and potentially the rail covers and grip pod.

All the same though, it's a very good looking gun and I'd love to have one even if she is a little chunky.

stancrist

From: stancrist

5-Dec

gatnerd said:

I'd be surprised but pleased though if they were using m855a1.

Since they're doing a number of upgrades to their military, it is possible they did decide to use M855A1.

However, I agree with you.  More likely they are just continuing to use their version of M855/SS109 FMJ.

  • Edited 05 December 2021 22:20  by  stancrist
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