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LMAO Germany adopts an AR-15   Small Arms <20mm

Started 14/9/20 by QuintusO; 36409 views.
smg762

From: smg762

7/1/21

There was one reference to a guy who had figured out how to make accurate sabots,  the article was on 

http://www.realguns.com/articles/700.htm

I tried it and it asks me to subscribe for a fee

The other one was here

https://apps.dtic.mil/docs/citations/ADB006505

But it doesn't let me download... gives error messages 

I'd really love to be able to access some of that stuff

  • Edited 07 January 2021 14:33  by  smg762
gatnerd

From: gatnerd

8/1/21

Seems Real Guns has gone behind paywall since when I shared it, so thats gone unless you become a member over there.

As for the other document, I downloaded it an re-uploaded it, should hopefully work for you:

https://www.docdroid.net/NCPd1Eg/sabot-article-pdf

smg762

From: smg762

8/1/21

Hmm I get a dark screen with a circular 'im loading,  please wait' icon. 

Clicking anything on the screen gives me pop up ads. 

It might be because I'm limited to a smartphone.  Thanks anyway

tidusyuki

From: tidusyuki

13/1/21

"One thing that is a bit funny is that HK claims its gun is was copied to a degree where you can drop in Hanael bolt and bolt carrier into HK416 and it will fire and cycle as if using an original bolt, HK made a video show dissembling a Hanael rifle for parts and comparing them to HK parts"

Where can one watch the video about the disassembling, I'm so wanna see it?

"Meanwhile Hanael is of course lobbying politicians to save the deal.

Also does this suggests that H&K is "clean" in the whole bid and procurement process?

  • Edited 13 January 2021 2:44  by  tidusyuki
tidusyuki

From: tidusyuki

13/1/21

Not gonna lie, that RS556 is kind of cool and quite original. Aside from the weight of all that unnecessary mass, i believe it's a capable rifle.

roguetechie

From: roguetechie

13/1/21

The thing is, of course it's possible to swap parts...

Hk went out of their way to make as many parts as possible compatible with garden variety AR's.

This entire thing is hk being just unimaginably shitty, which considering their willingness to take close to 100 million dollars from the US to develop the xm25 and then said oh no we won't actually make them for you or give you the TDP because it's a war crime gun.

If you want to see what the haenel gun looks like Inside, just look at 416 disassembly videos

JPeelen

From: JPeelen

13/1/21

Oh, really?

From a European point of view it is the U.S. that, under the pretext of ITAR, is trying to collect as much as proprietary information as possible from its competitors. 

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

14/1/21

JPeelen said:

From a European point of view it is the U.S. that, under the pretext of ITAR, is trying to collect as much as proprietary information as possible from its competitors.

For small arms? I wasn't aware that there was much in the way of cutting edge proprietary info in that sphere left these days. 

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

14/1/21

tidusyuki said:

Not gonna lie, that RS556 is kind of cool and quite original. Aside from the weight of all that unnecessary mass, i believe it's a capable rifle.

Yeah its a cool design; I certainly love the AUG quick change barrel from an ease of use standpoint.

At the same time, I recognize its a pretty useless feature for the AR15. You gain the ability to quick change barrels, but do to the design, you lose modularity and ergonomics in terms of handguards.

The current trend is long handgaurds that extend to close to the base of the flash hider, and in that regard the RS556 will be forever dated; its a 16" rifle with the handguard space of an 10.5" rifle.

The other disadvantage of course is weight; its the heaviest conventional layout rifle in my rifle chart:

LE6920: 6.29LBS

M4A1 FN: 6.36LBS

S+T BR18 14.5”: 6.39bs

M4A2 416 barrel: 6.5lbs

KAK SR15 Mod 2: 6.55lbs

LWRC IC DI: 6.6lbs

KelTec RDB: 6.7lbs

ARX 100: 6.8LBS

T91 16”: 6.99lbs

ST BR18 20”: 7.05lbs

Thales F90: 7.17lbs

SCAR 16S: 7.25lbs

LWRC IC-A5: 7.3lbs

ACR: 7.3lbs

Arsenal SLR-106: 7.3lbs

K17 Bullpup: 7.4lbs

LMT CQB16: 7.45lbs

F2000 Tactical: 7.47lbs

Thales F90 20”: 7.47lbs

SG 551: 7.48

HK416A5 14.5” - 7.69lbs

HOWA T98: 7.7lbs

HK 433 16”: 7.72LBS

AK-12: 7.72lbs

Aug A3 M1 High Rail: 7.8lbs

HK 416 a5 16” : 7.85lbs

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graylion

From: graylion

14/1/21

If i was looking for an AR15 style rifle, I'd talk to Ian and Karl about licensing WWSD 2020.

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