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For Your Amusement   General Army topics

Started 15/9/21 by stancrist; 30506 views.
schnuersi

From: schnuersi

1/1/23

There is no kill like overkill!

nincomp

From: nincomp

3/1/23

I heard a machinegun owner refer to this as "how to turn money into noise and smoke" (and in this case, fire).  Just watching that video caused a significant pain in my wallet!

stancrist

From: stancrist

3/1/23

LOL.  Yeah, it's certainly expensive.  However, I think most machine gun hobbyists are wealthy enough that they don't care about the $$$ spent.

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stancrist

From: stancrist

25/2/23

I Get SHOT at by the MG-42 for SCIENCE

The German MG-42 is a legendary World War II machine gun known for its exceptional speed and reliability. With a rate of fire of up to 1,500 rounds per minut...

JPeelen

From: JPeelen

25/2/23

By the way, carrying the MG42 (as well as the MG34) in the way shown (muzzle forward) was explicitly forbidden. Allegedly, it could result in bent receivers. I was not convinced, but in my Bundeswehr time of course I carried it muzzle rearward when shouldered.  

Edit: On second thought, the picture shown looks very unrealistic. If you carry an MG 42 in the way shown, you have to pull down(!) on the forward part. In the image it looks as if the person supports the forward part. That is not in line with reality.

  • Edited 25 February 2023 17:54  by  JPeelen
stancrist

From: stancrist

25/2/23

The video is not meant to be realistic or historically accurate.  It was made purely for entertainment.

  • Edited 25 February 2023 22:11  by  stancrist
Farmplinker

From: Farmplinker

26/2/23

Admin does things.... differently.

schnuersi

From: schnuersi

26/2/23

JPeelen said:

By the way, carrying the MG42 (as well as the MG34) in the way shown (muzzle forward) was explicitly forbidden. Allegedly, it could result in bent receivers. I was not convinced, but in my Bundeswehr time of course I carried it muzzle rearward when shouldered.

I don't know about bent receivers and i am rather sceptical about that but the manual describes carrying over the shoulder with muzzle backwards. Its also the more natural way to do it. As righ hander you pick the gun up and up it on your left shoulder muzzle backwards. Its a simple motion. After that the gun rests at its center of gravity on your shoulder and the left hand can either steady it at the pistol grip or sling.

JPeelen said:

Edit: On second thought, the picture shown looks very unrealistic. If you carry an MG 42 in the way shown, you have to pull down(!) on the forward part. In the image it looks as if the person supports the forward part. That is not in line with reality.

Yes the center of gravity is where the exjection port is. In front of the pistol grip.

During my service time carrying the MG over the shoulder was heavily discouraged if not forbidden when out of the barracks for training. So we would not be looking like "die Contras auf dem Rückzug" or other more colourfull descriptions.
You either carried ready like a rifle or used the two sling halves like a carrying handle.

Farmplinker

From: Farmplinker

1/3/23

".... like a rifle...." so how does an MG3 work at room clearing?;)

schnuersi

From: schnuersi

1/3/23

Farmplinker said:

".... like a rifle...." so how does an MG3 work at room clearing?;)

Pretty good: you hose the wall and the room behind is cleared ;)

In pratice that is not much of an issue since the MG would in most cases not enter the building but be part of the covering group that stays outside. In a particular large building the MG would enter after the initial assault team to provide fire superiourity. Usually along corridors or in halls and staircases.
I have on occation seen the MG being used as sort of a battering ram. With the gunner using it in the assult stance and firing continous bursts onto a room/doorway while advancing towards it. To allow the assault team to get close so they can use grenades and flush the position out.

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