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30x113mm airburst/proximity C-UAS for Marines Army Guns 20+mm
From: DavidPawley
13/10/21
gatnerd said:FARA is now the 4th attempt at this...
Oh yes. However, the trainable gun is not a weapon system for armour defeat. It’s for soft targets. Hellfire (or a successor) is for engaging AFV.
From: gatnerd
25/10/21
In terms of alternate CUAS, I found this video showing the effect of a M134 Minigun. It works, but it becomes obvious why a Proximity airburst would be preferable.
This is "Dillon M134 CUAS Video" by EOS - Electro Optic Systems on Vimeo, the home for high quality videos and the people who love them.
- Edited 25 October 2021 6:12 by gatnerd
From: gatnerd
25/10/21
More info on the 30x113, including its broader future and potential upgrades:
https://asc.army.mil/web/news-incremental-advances/
....the 30×113 mm ammunition was selected as the caliber of choice to provide lethality while not increasing vehicle weight significantly [over .50 bmg.]
From: poliorcetes
25/10/21
From the same channel
This is "NG 230LF Single Shot UAS Video" by EOS - Electro Optic Systems on Vimeo, the home for high quality videos and the people who love them.
From: gatnerd
26/10/21
More SHORAD:
Army is experimenting with both Microwaves and Lasers.
But this will be backed up by the Marauder, which is the Stryker with:
-30mm Prox
-7.62 M240
-4x Stinger Missiles
-2x Hellfire 'Longbow' varients with millimeter wave radar targeting:
Whats interesting is that while this is a Air Defense vehicle, it would be exceptionally well suited to ground defense given the 30mm + 2x Hellfires.
From: gatnerd
31/10/21
In addition to 30x113mm, Stinger Missiles (used in 2-4x packs on the various SHORAD vehicles) will now also feature Proximity Fused Warheads due to the drone threat.
Pg 356:
https://www.army.mil/e2/downloads/rv7/2020-2021_Weapon_Systems_Handbook.pdf
From: gatnerd
22/10/22
Army now officially fielding 30x113mm Prox:
https://taskandpurpose.com/tech-tactics/army-xm1211-high-explosive-proximity-round-fielding/
From: stancrist
22/10/22
Interesting. This video says the XM1211 also senses ground targets:
https://youtu.be/d5e-KIu7t3M?t=70
Does that mean the proximity fuze is also able to sense foot soldiers?
And will Stryker brigades have to also field the MACE system in order for Stryker gunners to effectively engage UAVs?
https://youtu.be/rr7ym1zkda8?t=15
From: EmericD
22/10/22
stancrist said:Does that mean the proximity fuze is also able to sense foot soldiers?
Firing at ground targets, in direct fire mode, with proximity fuze?
That's going to be interesting, for sure!