Farmplinker said:

Will the Finnish rifle be a licensed LMT?

SAKO is part of the Beretta group.

Beretta was well involved into the NGSW program and is going to unveil a new assault rifle developped for the Italian SF. The SAKO rifle will probably share most of it's DNA with the Italian SF rifle.

EmericD said:

Beretta was well involved into the NGSW program and is going to unveil a new assault rifle developped for the Italian SF. The SAKO rifle will probably share most of it's DNA with the Italian SF rifle

Very interesting. The article had said that they expected an AR-10 type rifle, is that in line with whats expected for the Italian SF rifle? 

I take it they were not interested in the ARX 200...

gatnerd said:

I take it they were not interested in the ARX 200...

A paper from 2020 on this topic:

https://corporalfrisk.com/2020/05/27/the-return-of-the-sako/

I seems that they are looking for a rifle family, including a DMR, and the ARX-200 is not really suited for that task (it was developped first as a "battle rifle", but it was found that the design was very difficult to be "accurazed" in order to make a proper DMR).

EmericD said:

Beretta was well involved into the NGSW program and is going to unveil a new assault rifle developped for the Italian SF

Do you think Beretta, based on their NGSW involvement, may have added some NGSW DNA into the new rifle, to allow it to be more easily converted to 6.8 in the future? 

The original article mentions that Sweden may look to convert their rifles to 6.8 in the future should it become a reality. 

I'm excited to see what SAKO produces. I dont know about how their military rifles perform, but I've shot both SAKO and Tikka (their econo sister company) bolt action hunting rifles. I had no problem putting 3rds into 1" at 100yd, using basic JSP hunting ammo. They were both real shooters right out of the box. 

LMAO another country embracing the AR supremacy. This means lot of countries are also leaving folding stock. Does it deemed unnecessary nowadays?

tidusyuki said:

This means lot of countries are also leaving collapsible stock.

Do you mean, abandoning folding stocks in favor of collapsible stocks? As most AR10/15 type rifles these days employ a collapsible stock. 

Ah yes, what i mean is folding stock.

I think it’s mostly the AR being the most refined, constantly updated rifle design in the world, and countries being willing to forgo a folding stock in order to have it. Rather then the folding stock falling out of fashion.

gatnerd said:

Do you think Beretta, based on their NGSW involvement, may have added some NGSW DNA into the new rifle, to allow it to be more easily converted to 6.8 in the future? 

That's a difficult question, because if Textron wins the NGSW competition, no weapons would be able to be retrofitted.

Or, maybe someone told them that the competition was now between TV and SIG.

Anyway, I think that designing a rifle able to cope with 80,000 psi mean pressure chamber, and an ejection system able to positively eject base-heavy cases, is the minimum that you should aim for...

EmericD said:

an ejection system able to positively eject base-heavy cases, is the minimum that you should aim for...

Wow, thats something I hadn't even considered. I had assumed if an ejection system could toss a ~11g case like 7.62 brass, it would have no problem ejecting a ~5g polymer case. I take it these base heavy cases proving iffy to eject?