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Ukraine weapons thread   General Military Discussion

Started 24/2/22 by gatnerd; 217561 views.
taschoene

From: taschoene

2-Nov

autogun said:

Are the gun muzzles fitted with the fuze-setter for using AHEAD?

It does not appear that they are.

schnuersi

From: schnuersi

2-Nov

autogun said:

Are the gun muzzles fitted with the fuze-setter for using AHEAD?

Highly unlikely. The Gepards have not been until their phase out of service in the German Army. To my knowledge they are unmodified.

schnuersi

From: schnuersi

2-Nov

gatnerd said:

That seems like it would have been the optimal load / a hell of an advertisement for the concept.

I agree. But instead it seems a propper SPAA can score direct hits onto drones so reliable HEI is good enough and the effect of a single high is a kill. It might be the case that with current drone technology air burst is not needed if the FCS is sofisticated enough.

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

4-Nov

Pretty spectacular shot with what looks to be a NLAW:

Russian Lancet loitering munitions:

British Stormer HVM in action:

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

7-Nov

So where is the 35mm ammo coming from if Swiss are refusing reexport.

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/switzerland-refuses-to-budge-on-german-ammunition-request-/48028348

Some bizarre point blank tank action. Supposedly coordinated with help of said drone 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnyGIEqtd5A

schnuersi

From: schnuersi

7-Nov

Mr. T (MrT4) said:

So where is the 35mm ammo coming from if Swiss are refusing reexport.

There are other manufacturers of 35 mm. Nammo/Raufoss from Norway for example. This would also explain why currently only HEI is used.

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

7-Nov

Ukraine is already having an effect on shaping Army priorities and logistics.

https://ndiastorage.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/ndia/2022/future/Tues_Grassano.pdf

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

7-Nov

Drones and precision weapons galore .............

Chinese MLRS , payloads include loitering munitions, cruise missiles ..... and a massive industrial base to actually make these in huge numbers

Norinco SR5 universal missile system, sold to several countries. A wide range of weapons is presented for it, including the FireDragon 300 ballistic missile (610 mm caliber), KingDragon 150 (300 mm), KingDragon 60 (220 mm), FireDragon 70 (220 mm), FireDragon 40 (122 mm) and FireDragon 40A (122 mm) guided missiles, as well as barrage ammunition Loitering Dragon 60A and Loitering Dragon 60B (the numbers in the index apparently also mean the firing range in kilometers)

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

7-Nov

Mr. T (MrT4) said:

Norinco SR5 universal missile system

Seems basically like a knock off of the Korean K239 Chunmoo, which is itself a 12 shot HIMARS / wheeled M270 MLRS.

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

8-Nov

I dont think they copied the Korean MLRS , in any case its the payloads and firecontrol that make the MLRS these days , in addition to palletized reload vs manual or round-per-round reload of soviet designs.

On the other hand new Chinese  CETC definetly looks like a straight up copycat  of TB2 grin

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