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Ukraine weapons thread   General Military Discussion

Started 24/2/22 by gatnerd; 238673 views.
gatnerd

From: gatnerd

29-Dec

That’s very reasonable.

How are the gun laws there? Other then building a safe room, what else is required to get a FA gun like that?

In the US, FA is regulated like a suppressor, but also limited to a limited number of guns registered before 1986. The result is the Car like prices of $20-50k.

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

29-Dec

We have some of the best gun laws in Europe. Suppressors are sold over the counter completely unregulated, Full auto guns are sold to collectors so you have a 'collectors permit that is practically unlimited in terms of what you can buy. But full auto collector needs a 'safe room' so a mechanically and electronically protected (multi-point locking door  and electronic alarm.) Police also reserve a right to make a visit once a year to inspect the collection.

MGV-176 is now relatively expensive as its becoming exceedingly rare military sold some surplus 2 years ago , and they might still have some on stock but its rare to find more than a couple on market at any one time. If you look at my link bellow you can get many full auto guns at the fraction of the cost of MGV-176 but that is just a reflection of how common they are on the market .

A friend of mine has one of the largest collections in the region with over 400 full auto guns including some 100+ belt feed MG and HMGs and some smaller cannon from WW1 and WW2 another friend of mine owns an M36 Jackson tank destroyer in addition to the large gun collection. Yugoslav M36 were re-motorized to T-55 engines so are relatively simple to keep running

Here we are taking it out for a spin , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rBHW5uh800

Typical collectors items. Collectors item typically doesn't need a CIP proof mark , sporting shooters on other hands can't own guns without CIP poof mark. But realistically you can take any of these to the proof house and have it poof tested if you wanted to have it on sport licence.

https://www.rebec.eu/product-category/orozje/zbirateljsko-orozje/

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

29-Dec

Turkey finaly retrieved two A400 stuck on Kiev Airport since February 24th. Wonder what kind of a deal was reached to enable the repatriation , also that two NATO planes parked on tarmac for months avoided becoming practice targets for Shaheds 

Two A400Ms (b/n 17-0080 and 18-0093) arrived at Kyiv Boryspil International Airport (KBP/UKBB) after midnight on February 24, 2022According to the Turkish Defense Minister, they were delivering humanitarian supplies and were supposed to repatriate Turkish citizens. Since then, for almost 10 months, the planes have been in Boryspil, and the crews have been in the Turkish embassy.

The Turkish side for a long time unsuccessfully contacted both Moscow and Kyiv on the issue of providing a corridor and evacuating two military transport aircraft. 

Kocur_

From: Kocur_

30-Dec

You quoted fake news from Russian-sponsored fake news portal, well known here in Poland. 

mpopenker

From: mpopenker

30-Dec

Kocur_ said:

You quoted fake news from Russian-sponsored fake news portal, well known here in Poland. 

Those days, the only difference between the "fake" news and the "genuine" news published by some source is whether you like it or not

The twitter files case is a good example, as well as the entire modern media system.

schnuersi

From: schnuersi

30-Dec

mpopenker said:

Those days, the only difference between the "fake" news and the "genuine" news published by some source is whether you like it or not

While it is true that the term fake news is abused the "report" about a mass exodus of Poles simply is not true. You could also call it an outright lie.

The neigbouring countries and the ones mentioned in the article did no register any fluctuation in the number of border crossings.
BTW it would not help to go to another EU country or NATO country to try and evade the draft. There are extradition treaties in place. So any country just would have to put all draft dogers onto the wanted list and they would be returned pretty quickly.

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

31-Dec

Some fancy new gear from Lobaev going to the front , but one has to ask what kind of ammo its going to be feed , precision rifles are only as good as their ammo even more of a problem if these are .308 win

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

31-Dec

First sighting of SuperBison in Ukraine

https://t.me/new_militarycolumnist/98747

graylion

From: graylion

31-Dec

Mr. T (MrT4) said:

Some fancy new gear from Lobaev going to the front , but one has to ask what kind of ammo its going to be feed , precision rifles are only as good as their ammo even more of a problem if these are .308 win

I was under the impression that there are quite a few .308 rifles in UA?

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

31-Dec

That is a handsome rifle. 

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