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18/5/22
schnuersi said:The 35 mm ammo is still in the supply chain.
But manufactured in .ch and can't be shipped to a war zone ...
18/5/22
schnuersi said:Getting a new manufacturer approved, getting a new budget for additional ammo and settung up the QM and logistics are an administrative nightmare and takes at least month. All of this matters little since the alternative manufacturers most likly work at full capacity too.
And isn't that Ukraine's business?
18/5/22
graylion said:But manufactured in .ch and can't be shipped to a war zone ...
C'est l'histoire de l'arroseur arrosé... (sorry, it's in French but I can't resist).
18/5/22
EmericD said:C'est l'histoire de l'arroseur arrosé
help please ;) google translate is not making a lot of sense ...
18/5/22
graylion said:help please ;) google translate is not making a lot of sense ...
The German government had a large record of not allowing the exportation of several French-German joint products, or even French products that used German parts...
18/5/22
graylion said:EmericD said: C'est l'histoire de l'arroseur arrosé
help please ;) google translate is not making a lot of sense ...
This may not help either, but it appears to be what he's referring to.
The Watered Sprinkler - Wikipedia (fr-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog)
18/5/22
EmericD said:The German government had a large record of not allowing the exportation of several French-German joint products, or even French products that used German parts...
Basically every government has such rules. The US have ITAR. That is nothing special... as such.
The German rules used to be "no defense products into crisis regions". Which has been controversial to say the least. Especially the definition of what a crisis region is. This rule has been dropped since the invasion of the Ukraine. Which also was very controversial
The Swiss government has rules that are tied to their neutrality status. Delivering weapons to an active war party could compromise that so they forbid it. This has so far not been a problem. I am convinced that 99,99% of our politician and high ranking MoD officials have not been aware of this at all.
18/5/22
And Switzerland is making some noises about being willing to "backfill" inventory sent to conflict zones by others (so, if Germany ships its 35mm to Ukraine, Switzerland could be willing to resupply Germany, but not supply Ukraine directly). Which leaves an interesting question of how long the inventory has to be in German possession first. Is 24 hours long enough?