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Tracks vs Wheels General Army topics
From: stancrist
4-Aug
gatnerd said:Has this ever been pursued for military vehicles? ie have a wheeled force, and then if the terrain looks like it needs tracks, chuck some tracks on the wheels?
Similar to say putting snow chains on a car.
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Seems rather like reinventing the half-track... 
- Edited 04 August 2023 13:48 by stancrist
From: farmplinker2
5-Aug
I know from personal experience putting on/taking off those tracks aren't fun. Definitely want to clean after use, or putting back on sucks.
From: Mr. T (MrT4)
6-Aug
French force design is tailored to police poorly armed 'savages' in Africa, a force that is capable to self deploy over long distances with a limited logistics footprint. Tanks are only brought in as means of last resort.
From: stancrist
6-Aug
Mr. T (MrT4) said:French force design is tailored to police poorly armed 'savages' in Africa, a force that is capable to self deploy over long distances with a limited logistics footprint.
If that is true, then why equip the French army with a tracked MBT? Would not a wheeled gun system make more sense?
From: Mr. T (MrT4)
6-Aug
Like said Tanks are a last resort, most of their post cold war force was designed to police Africa all of their eggs are in the wheeled camp , they haven't built a tracked vehicle since the 70's or so . VBCI (Véhicule Blindé de Combat d'Infanterie) is their version of an IFV
From: gatnerd
6-Aug
Mr. T (MrT4) said:most of their post cold war force was designed to police Africa
Which to be fair is an entirely reasonable force design up until the last year.
From: stancrist
7-Aug
Jeff (Jefffar) said:So the AMX-10RC?
In theory or reality?
In reality, France is reportedly phasing out the AMX-10RC, so it would not be a viable alternative to the Leclerc MBT.
In theory, I guess it would depend on whether the speed and mobility of the AMX-10RC is a good match to the VBCI.
From: stancrist
7-Aug
Mr. T (MrT4) said:Like said Tanks are a last resort...
Yeah, I understood that the French use tanks as a last resort the first time you said it. Repeating it does not answer my question:
If the French want "a force that is capable to self deploy over long distances with a limited logistics footprint", then why equip the French army with a tracked MBT? Would not a wheeled gun system make more sense?
After all, French interventions "to police poorly armed 'savages' in Africa" have been occurring since the early 1960s. If they were tailoring their force for that mission, it seems odd and contradictory to have intentionally fielded a tracked MBT in a force which is otherwise fully equipped with wheeled vehicles.
Mr. T (MrT4) said:...they haven't built a tracked vehicle since the 70's or so .
Not true. Production of the Leclerc tank began in 1991.