So the 105 is at least semi explainable in that the MPAT rounds etc that are now available are wildly useful for a very broad range of used.

So In the case of my self propelled gun carriage, the idea was most definitely NOT to supplant the need for something like the MPF.

They'd actually work pretty well together.

In reference to your objections...

A: This only applies if you're using an m2 which my gun carriage idea had no intention of doing partly because of this and other limitations m2 imposes.

B: You're right that it would be challenging but it's nothing that hybrid locomotion can't handle. Hybrid locomotion involves the "gun carriage legs" being more like actual legs than fixed elements. Said legs having both wheels and "foot pads". Your biggest limitation would be very narrow areas but that's still a massive improvement over places you can rapidly move and emplace an m2 or mk19 now in a timely fashion!

C: in my version of the gun carriage deal you'd have at bare minimum at least 2 NLAW grade missiles over the shoulder of the gun itself (and likely 2 to 4 fly k style multi launch spigot mortar hedgehogs) with it being more likely that you'd have closer to something like a 4 pack of guided 70mm rockets. And absolutely none of this makes it a viable replacement for MPF!

At least for my part of this my comments on the gun carriage thing were an aside to the MPF discussion... I just got excited because someone mentioned self propelled gun carriages.

Now that said, could you maybe 5 to 10 years after getting the mini 50 and hydra gun carriages fully up and running build a super sized 105mm version of this probably using a fire out of battery style gun and mount?

Yeah you probably could, and in some terrains etc it could probably even be better than a more conventional mpf style vehicle.

France is sending AMX10s to UA. Let's see how that goes.

I suspect we'll find out how good the AMX10 is as a tank destroyer.....

Did you mean to post that info in the Ukraine weapons thread?

well, this thread is about 105mm, that is why I posted it here.

graylion said:

well, this thread is about 105mm...

Not exactly.  This thread is about the MPF, which has a different 105mm gun than the AMX-10, and fires a family of higher velocity ammo.

Thinking about the light tank/FSV concept. Is there any reason why these things should have 120mm? They shouldn't slug it out with a tank anyway? And a smaller gun would give space for other things like maybe a periscope mast, ESM and a drone or 2?