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NLOS missiles   General Army topics

Started 5-Feb by graylion; 1470 views.
graylion

From: graylion

5-Feb

Where would one integrate NLOS missiles like Spike or Brimstone? Brigade I assume? Together with a battery of MLRS and one of 155?

Refleks

From: Refleks

5-Feb

I'd put spike NLOS at battalion

Farmplinker

From: Farmplinker

5-Feb

Depends on the opposition and your doctrine. I could see NLOS at company level if you want to engage at longer range in order to increase the amount of time you have the enemy under fire. Say an expeditionary force that's dealing with a heavily mechanized enemy and the EF is firepower heavy.

graylion

From: graylion

6-Feb

Farmplinker said:

Depends on the opposition and your doctrine. I could see NLOS at company level if you want to engage at longer range in order to increase the amount of time you have the enemy under fire. Say an expeditionary force that's dealing with a heavily mechanized enemy and the EF is firepower heavy.

I am thinking Elbonia again. Company has AMOS. Batallion would have what? The basket is 

  • NLOS/Spear3
  • MLRS
  • 155 mm Arty

The one thing that occurs to me is that there seems to be a lot of overlap in capability between MLRS and Spear? But Brimstone/Spear has a smaller warhead and being a cruise missile might be harder to intercept?

Farmplinker

From: Farmplinker

6-Feb

Another advantage for Brimstone is more launch platforms. Strap a launcher on the back of a pickup, you have mobile artillery, cheapish. MLRS has fewer options.

graylion

From: graylion

6-Feb

Also, with the EW version you can do some fun stuff. Launch a swarm of those at eg Kerch Bridge and follow up with ATACMS, since without that S400 would probably destroy those ATACMS

poliorcetes

From: poliorcetes

6-Feb

I would add this condition: "what is the velocity preferred for a NLOS effector used at which organical level?"

Tammuz-NLOS: 190 m/s. Cost per unit: go figure, around 220k

WB warmate 2 loiter fixed-wing UAS: 22 m/s. Cost per unit, 22k (as published on a Polish contract)

graylion

From: graylion

6-Feb

Good question. The Warmate WB2 I'd probably put at Company?

poliorcetes

From: poliorcetes

6-Feb

WBelectronics is the Polish company which has produced it. It has some limits that need to be overcomed

schnuersi

From: schnuersi

6-Feb

graylion said:

Where would one integrate NLOS missiles like Spike or Brimstone? Brigade I assume? Together with a battery of MLRS and one of 155?

The range of Brimstone and SpikeNLOS firmly puts them in to the brigade level asset category.
In the case of Spike NLOS because of its two way data exchange becomes something in between precision artillery and long range indirect AT. Brimstone seems more limited.

I do not think MLRS is a brigade asset. Nor should it be one. It seens best placed at division or higher.

 

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