I wish I was a cartridge designer but I ain't that smart Stan.

Nor do I have the means to get sample projectiles manufactured or even get the powders I'd need much less the lightweight cases.

Really good ammo has entered the space age my man, it's not something a basement Enterprise can do. Or not something my basement Enterprise can do.

I see us limping along with current platforms for quite a while and there are plenty of improvements that can be implemented but in reality, it's all about FCS making current platforms infinitely more lethal.

In any case i would be surprised if assault rifle fires killed 5% of combatants in any large scale conflict past 50 years. Hence low priority.

Indeed large scale conventional conflicts are as probable as they were in 2010: very, very improbable.

However, unconventional conflicts are going to happens and probably happens more frequently

https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_january_2022_global_security_army_industry/winchester_to_provide_6.8mm_ammunition_for_us_army_nsgw_program.html

Winchester to provide 6.8mm ammunition for US Army NSGW Program

According to ssusa.org, Winchester has announced that the U.S. Army awarded the company cost-plus and firm-fixed-price contracts totaling $20 million for the 6.8 mm Next Generation Squad Weapons (NGSW) program. The contracts specify ammunition development, manufacturing facility requirements analysis and production capacity planning. Work will be performed at the Lake City Army Ammunition Plant in Independence, Mo., which is the only government-owned, contractor-operated small-caliber ammunition production facility in the United States. These projects were awarded under Winchester’s $8 billion contract to operate the Lake City facility. Winchester Ammunition took over the operation at Lake City in late 2020..

And who is the partner of Winchester for NGSW?

https://www.ssusa.org/articles/2022/1/4/winchester-scores-army-nsgw-program-contracts-worth-20m

poliorcetes said:

And who is the partner of Winchester for NGSW?

I wouldn't jump to any conclusion about the winner of NGSW.  This isn't the first time that Winchester has been awarded the contract to operate LCAAP.

poliorcetes said:

And who is the partner of Winchester for NGSW?

If they need 20 millions to tool for the NGSW ammo, maybe the winner is not Textron?

Indeed Winchester is already operating LCAAP for 7.62 ammo. BUT this time is for NGSW, ergo they will run the production of the winner fo NGSW. And I seriously doubt that they will run the production of either SIG or TV ammo

Or maybe they need to build and improve really sizeable lines in order to lower the unitary cost of the new cartridge

I confess: I still want them to win and to make the industry evolve. Maybe they have solved chamber alignment

poliorcetes said:

BUT this time is for NGSW, ergo they will run the production of the winner fo NGSW. And I seriously doubt that they will run the production of either SIG or TV ammo

Lake City is a US Army facility.  If SIG or TV ammo is adopted, Lake City will produce it for the military.