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NGSW Phase 2 Consolidation and info   Small Arms <20mm

Started 30/8/19 by gatnerd; 477782 views.
poliorcetes

From: poliorcetes

13-Jan

Thanks for sharing

If IVAS finally delivers even part of what has been announced, it will be more than transformative.

The most important aspect of IVAS, in my opinion, would be IVAS as a front-end and interface to and with BMS.

Indeed in this half decade so many transformative systems are going to feedback between them that it seems to me more and more difficult to make even the simplest predictions except one: war in the broadest sense of the term (including new forms of war) is going to be more and more disconnected of what we think combat is

stancrist

From: stancrist

14-Jan

DavidPawley said:

SIG are selling commercial versions of their NGSW candidate.

This begs the question; is this because they won, or because they lost?

It might not mean either.

According to the article, the Army has not yet made a decision.

SIG may simply be trying to profit from commercial sales while waiting for the Army to select a winner.

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

14-Jan

Its smart way to lobby the army.

In the past many projects US military paid for and never completed , found a second lease of life on the market be it civilian or military only to have US military circle back a couple of years later and buying a modification of an off the shelf system. 

poliorcetes

From: poliorcetes

14-Jan

Well, both civilian cartridge and rifle have need a full development cycle. SiG decided to develop them independently of final NGSW winner, because they could not it a number of months ago

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

18-Jan

Havent seen this one before , would be surprised if the plastic case needed to be from 3 parts 

Gr1ff1th

From: Gr1ff1th

18-Jan

The CT-style full loop belt grooves (allows the use of polymer links), on the TV-style case warrants serious investigation as a possibility for True Velocity, I wonder if they're aware of the concept to begin with 

stancrist

From: stancrist

18-Jan

Why is the right cartridge labeled "6mm ARC" when the bullet is of the same diameter as that of the 5.56mm Mk262?  confused

stancrist

From: stancrist

18-Jan

Gr1ff1th said:

The CT-style full loop belt grooves (allows the use of polymer links), on the TV-style case warrants serious investigation as a possibility for True Velocity,

Using full-loop polymer links does not seem feasible for machine guns that shoot TV ammo.

JPeelen

From: JPeelen

18-Jan

I guess the Photoshop operator had no idea that Mk262 has a smaller bullet diameter. For purely aesthetic reasons, he chose to give all bullets the same diameter. Clueless marketing people did not see any mistake. Engineers/technicians were of course not in the loop.    

EmericD

From: EmericD

18-Jan

JPeelen said:

I guess the Photoshop operator had no idea that Mk262 has a smaller bullet diameter.

Well, the "photoshop operator" is probably the one that gives us the superb 3D mechanical rendering of the Textron NGSW weapon (among other things), so I think that this guy knows what he was doing.

EDIT: I think he is even on this forum.

  • Edited 18 January 2022 16:24  by  EmericD
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