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NGSW Phase 2 Consolidation and info   Small Arms <20mm

Started 30/8/19 by gatnerd; 744661 views.
stancrist

From: stancrist

4/9/19

poliorcetes said...

Indeed SiG's carbine entry looks like a short barrel marksman rifle more than an assault rifle. A weapon intended for careful and precise shooting

???  To me, it looks pretty much like a beefier version of the improved M4 carbine used by SOCOM.

Image result for urgi

stancrist

From: stancrist

4/9/19

renatohm said...

I'd be very surprised if it's anything remotely similar to 'controllable' in full auto.

Since full-auto is rarely used in rifles and carbines, that may not be important.

poliorcetes

From: poliorcetes

4/9/19

Look at the back of the receiver 

stancrist

From: stancrist

4/9/19

Done.  I don't see anything unique about the back of the receiver, and the whole rifle still looks to me like a M4 URGI on steroids.

stancrist

From: stancrist

4/9/19

gatnerd said...

Overall their new lightweight LMG - which is backwards compatible with 7.62 and 6.5 Creedmoor - looks very promising.

I agree, although I'm puzzled by the small capacity of the feed device.  It looks like it may hold only about 30 rounds.

SIG NGSW

poliorcetes

From: poliorcetes

4/9/19

As any other recent SiG design, the back of the receiver protudes far from the grip. Return spring are quite different than in an AR-15 design and it doesn't need buffer. Stocks can be foldable

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

4/9/19

Yes, the feed device is unusual.

It appears to be an open top box, similar to a regular LMG ammo box.

But, it appears to have a vertical "feed tower" in order for it to be inserted into a mag well on the LMG. If that's the case, I suspect the ammo boxes are going to be unnecessary bulky in pouches, due to the need to accommodate the ~2" vertical feed tower. Similar to the problem with storing AR compatible drum mags.

And I agree, the size looks small.

It will be interesting to see more about it, that's for sure.

stancrist

From: stancrist

4/9/19

Perhaps I'm missing something.  How does the shape of the back of the receiver make it look like a DMR?

  • Edited 04 September 2019 20:56  by  stancrist
taschoene

From: taschoene

4/9/19

I think they're doing something interesting with that belt box.  Note that it's covered in fabric material.  I suspect it is intended to be attached to a load-bearing vest using the same post interface that holds the box to the gun.  That means there is no pouch to shove the box into; the shooter just pulls a new box off the vest and slaps it onto the gun.

stancrist

From: stancrist

4/9/19

I think you're mistaken.  The top photo in post #19 shows what appear to be mag pouches for both the LMG and rifle.

The use of fabric for construction of the belt container just follows the current practice with the M249 and other LMGs.

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