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NGSW Phase 2 Consolidation and info   Small Arms <20mm

Started 30/8/19 by gatnerd; 522738 views.
gatnerd

From: gatnerd

4/9/19

"Perhaps.  We would need to see what the feed device looks like by itself.  If it does have a bulky tower, that could be problematical, since it appears to be a belt-fed-only weapon, unable to use box magazines."

Thank you for the Gunsamerica link.

Per the article:

"The machine gun looks fairly compact and feeds from a linked belt of ammunition as well as from detachable magazines."

This makes sense, as from past coverage, it seems the Marine's are wedded to the 'IAR' mag fed machine gun idea. And weapons like the M249 also include a provision for feeding from magazines as a backup.

So this configuration kills to birds with one stone. It offers a palatable IAR (really more BAR at this point) weapon for the Marine's, while also allowing a true LMG configuration should they come to their senses. And it also allows LMG gunners to use rifle mags in an emergency.  

It also explains the weird 'feed tower' box attachment system. Hopefully they design the feed tower to 'fold' for storage, and then snap into a locked vertical configuration in use. Similar to a modern car key:

stancrist

From: stancrist

5/9/19

gatnerd said...

Per the article:

"The machine gun looks fairly compact and feeds from a linked belt of ammunition as well as from detachable magazines."

This makes sense, as from past coverage, it seems the Marine's are wedded to the 'IAR' mag fed machine gun idea. And weapons like the M249 also include a provision for feeding from magazines as a backup.

So this configuration kills to birds with one stone. It offers a palatable IAR (really more BAR at this point) weapon for the Marine's, while also allowing a true LMG configuration should they come to their senses. And it also allows LMG gunners to use rifle mags in an emergency.

Yes, I saw that remark.  I would caution against assuming that just because it says so in a non-technical article, does not mean that it is a factually correct statement.

I think the author erroneously assumed that the LMG can feed from rifle magazines, because the weapon lacks a proper mag well, and there is no visible mag release.

poliorcetes

From: poliorcetes

5/9/19

I meant that it is similar to SiG recent range of assault rifle products, with a different back receiver than AR-15 and with the possibility of mounting a folding stock

stancrist

From: stancrist

5/9/19

poliorcetes said...

I meant that it is similar to SiG recent range of assault rifle products, with a different back receiver than AR-15 and with the possibility of mounting a folding stock

Okay, you've got me very confused.  Your responses seem completely unrelated to your original comment.

You:  "SiG's carbine entry looks like a short barrel marksman rifle more than an assault rifle."

Me:   "To me, it looks pretty much like a beefier version of the improved M4 carbine used by SOCOM."

You:  "Look at the back of the receiver"

Me:   "I don't see anything unique about the back of the receiver, and the whole rifle still looks to me like a M4 URGI on steroids."

You:  "As any other recent SiG design, the back of the receiver protudes far from the grip."

Me:   "How does the shape of the back of the receiver make it look like a DMR?"

poliorcetes

From: poliorcetes

5/9/19

You are right. I didn't develop it enough. Sorry, Stan, I mixed the two issues.

poliorcetes

From: poliorcetes

5/9/19

Anyways, how SiG carbine is supposed to tame .270 WSL-like recoil?

EmericD

From: EmericD

5/9/19

poliorcetes said...

Anyways, how SiG carbine is supposed to tame .270 WSL-like recoil?

With a suppressor and in-line stock?

poliorcetes

From: poliorcetes

5/9/19

haha yes. With that. The operator will be able to do rapid fire... if dispersion cone is not important :)

stancrist

From: stancrist

5/9/19

poliorcetes said...

Anyways, how SiG carbine is supposed to tame .270 WSL-like recoil?

It isn't.  Riflemen are supposed to take steroids and lift weights so they get big and strong enough to handle the .270 WSL-like recoil.   ;^)

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