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I'm so glad I have Stan blocked lmao. Life is bliss.
If you go with the same number of rounds you have two very major issues.
Weight goes up massively and you run out of places to put magazines.
Going with the reduced round counts is an attempt to make the situation look fair and sane since keeping round counts the same gives insane and outright ludicrous weight increases
If you go with the same number of rounds you have two very major issues. Weight goes up massively and you run out of places to put magazines. Going with the reduced round counts is an attempt to make the situation look fair and sane...
I question that. It looks more like a dishonest attempt to make the mag-fed AR appear better than the belt-fed candidates.
Notice that he reduced the round count for the mag-fed, but kept the round count for the belt-feds the same as the M249.
Also, if it is "reasonable" to assume that the automatic riflemen can carry 11 magazines, why can't riflemen do the same?
Now, if you want to talk about what ammo load is realistic, considering the bulk of 6.8 NGSW mags, it looks to me like there is insufficient room on a plate carrier to have pouches for more than four spare mags.
100-125 cartridges were good enough for their great-great-grandfathers, by cracky!
The scary thing is someone will try to use that as a legitimate argument.
This is all so weird.
So this isn't a SAW in the usual sense, it's some kind of glorified AR/DMR with a single operator. More of a fireteam weapon than a squad weapon. Rather than carrying the random crap of his squadmates he just gets a slightly heavier gun and more ammo. This makes the belt fed guns look like an exceptionally stupid. A heavy barrel, 50 round drum and a bipod on the standard rifle being a better idea.
Trying to achieve all this with the same 20 round magazine as the squad seems optimistic.
SAWs were supposed to be fireteam weapons with a single operator. That's kind of why they suck (belt feds need an AG).
There are 2x M249s in the Army Rifle Squad (one per fireteam) with no AGs.
SAWs were supposed to be fireteam weapons with a single operator. That's kind of why they suck (belt feds need an AG). There are 2x M249s in the Army Rifle Squad (one per fireteam) with no AGs.
This is all part of the current Western manpower deficiency and trying to make the quad fit the transport exacerbated by the symmetrical fire team concept. 2x 4 man fire teams with or without a leader is pretty standard (and yes marines are special).
The Soviets went with a 7 man squad for their BTR and BMP motor rifle platoons that included a gun team and assault team. The entire mechanised platoon is 29. 3x gunner and driver, Platoon commander, platoon 2IC and 3x7 man squads. The commander or the 2IC dismounts with the squads and the other commands the vehicles. Whole thing fits in 3 BMPs/BTRs with a spare seat for the FOO/FAC. It seems insanely austere but it has been their structure for 4 decades. Even the Wagner PMC troops in syria appear to adhere to the 7 man squad structure from photo evidence.
Western vehicles aren't much bigger and both current loads and the size of GPMGs precludes rifle calibre LMGs in fire teams. The Brits split their platoon in 2x12 rather than 3x8 and so had 2x 4 man fire teams and a 4 man GPMG team, but that left the platoon without the 3rd maneuver element which was a considerable disadvantage.
Dropping the symmetrical fireteams for a gun team and assault team seems the only way that a rifle calibre belt fed LMG will be practical at section level.
Western vehicles aren't much bigger and both current loads and the size of GPMGs precludes rifle calibre LMGs in fire teams.
For a mechanised squad, they ain't going to be wandering about mountainsides with that loadout.
And i'm pretty sure everybody thinks a belt fed gun really needs an assistant gunner.